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Today I did a 29 mile round trip with 2 stops in the middle. On the way down I was averaging 30 mpg. On the way back my instant mileage was not as well as I left town. About a mile out the Ultragauge gave me a warning that I was over 4000 rpm. I looked down and I had inadvertently had the auto transmission in second, oops. No wonder the instant mileage wouldn't go over 18mpg. I ended up with 28+ mpg round trip.
I think my single front wheel cover made some difference. I made the left side steel frame and laid the composite. It is curing.
Maybe averaging 30mpg is a reality in my minivan.
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10-14-2010, 10:30 PM
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Boat tail, I have been thinking about one. When I got home today I got out the flox and laid a layer on my front cover. It is quite bumpy and has two tape overlaps. A more permanent fitting may be necessary. I am still sanding with 36 grit
For my boat tail I was considering a similar construction as my wheel fairings. I would need some metal to make a frame then a dacron cover to act as a mold for the composite. I wish I could stand cardboard. I have stacks of 2x4 target board.
I may have to turn loose of some money and get a 4wd small vehicle. I bottomed out 3 times on our road this afternoon. My small bodywork survived.
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10-16-2010, 01:53 PM
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Boat tail, I have been thinking about one. When I got home today I got out the flox and laid a layer on my front cover. It is quite bumpy and has two tape overlaps. A more permanent fitting may be necessary. I am still sanding with 36 grit
For my boat tail I was considering a similar construction as my wheel fairings. I would need some metal to make a frame then a dacron cover to act as a mold for the composite. I wish I could stand cardboard. I have stacks of 2x4 target board.
I may have to turn loose of some money and get a 4wd small vehicle. I bottomed out 3 times on our road this afternoon. My small bodywork survived.
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A neighbor constructed a tail for his Vanagon using a welded 1/2" EMT frame covered in doped fabric which his wife had stitched on.He was an old tail-dragger owner/pilot,gyro-copter builder and no newcomer to lightweight construction.
I'll bet his boat tail didn't weigh 10-pounds.
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10-16-2010, 06:27 PM
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Aerohead, that is basically how I was building my front wheel fairings. I used 9 gauge wire and sewed dacron on the them. I did coat the dacron with a layer of carbon then wet it out. The dacron acts as a mold and is a mold release as well. I like the look of the fabric how it flows between the metal frame parts. I got the idea watching some ridiculous car stereo program and they built in their speaker enclosures much the same way.
I may start some real work on the rear of my minivan. I am not sure how much I will get done as I refuse to do any carbon work in my shop. Too hazardous but perhaps building the rear framework and using dacron fabric might get me started.
I have made my front grill cover permanent now. It is finally gotten smooth enough to start looking good too (Apply a thin layer of micro, sand it off, repeat.). Today I fitted it in so that that the hood could be opened without removing it. I have a 1/8" gap so that is pretty small. I may use a technique that learned to make the gap as thin as a layer of duct tape.
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fixed link.
Here is the stock front. From straight on it hard to get a visualization of the lower lip created by the bumper.
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'Impact' van
When the Impact debuted at the Los Angeles Auto Show GM also had a hybrid van which was showcased.
The van has a small Kamm-back boat tailed section and is rated around Cd 0.25,quite a bit lower than the Pontiac Trans Sport of Cd 0.30.
If I could wisk the magic fabrication fairies your way,I'd have 'em put a short tail together for your van just to see what it would do.
1st-gen Insight/Prius minivan!
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Thanks for the inspiration. I have thought about putting on a tail trunk on the trailer hitch receiver.
Has anyone seen a photo of such van.
My wife really doesn't like driving the VW although she does fine with it.
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When the Impact debuted at the Los Angeles Auto Show GM also had a hybrid van which was showcased.
The van has a small Kamm-back boat tailed section and is rated around Cd 0.25,quite a bit lower than the Pontiac Trans Sport of Cd 0.30.
If I could wisk the magic fabrication fairies your way,I'd have 'em put a short tail together for your van just to see what it would do.
1st-gen Insight/Prius minivan!
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“The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell
“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe.
The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed.”
– Noah Webster, 1787
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