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Old 09-15-2015, 12:03 PM   #31 (permalink)
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What about an En-Trak motor on the front wheel? Would that be a bad idea?

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Old 09-15-2015, 04:30 PM   #32 (permalink)
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The rule on supercharging(turbo) is for each 1% increase of inlet pressure there is a 1% increase in gross horsepower. Cubic feet per minute can be converted to the cubic displacement times engine revolutions per minute. CID x RPM = CFM
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Old 09-15-2015, 04:57 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I wonder what RPM the Honda PCX 150 reaches. I calculated that a 150cc 4 stroke engine at 6,000 RPM draws 15.892 CFM.

At my altitude there would be about a 30% decrease in power.

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Ok. Maybe this is a really stupid question. But adding the lines of going with a hybrid electric motor instead of a turbocharger,

How unsafe would a 5kW pusher trailer on a bike be?
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It can be done. Check this link for a pre-made turbo kit.

FBM BIG BORE + FBM Turbo = 27hp and 19ft lbs !!

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WOW! Finally I see that it's possible!
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A turbo answer to a question I would never ask.
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What motorcycle are you riding now?
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What about an En-Trak motor on the front wheel? Would that be a bad idea?
Do you mean Etek? Incredibly bad idea, the Etek (what few of them are still available, or else one of its many clones) is 25lbs, you don't want that on the front wheel if you can avoid it.
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Ok. Maybe this is a really stupid question. But adding the lines of going with a hybrid electric motor instead of a turbocharger,

How unsafe would a 5kW pusher trailer on a bike be?
Not unsafe at all in my opinion, I've seen homebrew pushers with 6.5hp, that's close to the power level you're talking about. They're even on YouTube.

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What motorcycle are you riding now?
None. Actually I do have a small Razor but it needs a new battery. I've been eye-balling the Honda PCX 150. The reason is that I would like to sell all but one of my cars and have a scooter or motorcycle that I can take on the highway and venture down to the city every once in a while, plus use around town. I'd want something very fuel efficient. I can already get as much as 60mpg in my Golf. I'd hate to buy a bike that gets less.

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Do you mean Etek? Incredibly bad idea, the Etek (what few of them are still available, or else one of its many clones) is 25lbs, you don't want that on the front wheel if you can avoid it.
I meant the Ener-Trac hub wheel. But you're right. A bunch of inspiring weight on the front wheel is a bad idea.

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Not unsafe at all in my opinion, I've seen homebrew pushers with 6.5hp, that's close to the power level you're talking about. They're even on YouTube.
Ok. But do you think it would be safe at 45 mph? Of course 5kW or 6.5hp at higher speeds means less torque, so maybe I'm safe

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