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Old 10-22-2010, 12:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Oh, gosh, it was rattling about a lot, huh ? but Fiat has worked hard to eliminate vibration on the TwinAir.

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The engine in that video is pretty quiet and tame, compared to what I've seen in rural areas...

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Old 10-22-2010, 12:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Fiat's 500 Twin Air is quite a remarkable little car.
And the most important aspect, Fuel Economy....4.0 l/100 km (about 60MPG)
All tests I've read mention a disappointing FE:
Some 40 mpg rather than 60.
Autogids.be managed 28.7 mpg on a short test - they got carried away by the rev-happy engine.
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Old 10-22-2010, 01:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Most cars will have a disappointing MPG if they're not driven in a efficient manner. But I know what you mean, fuel efficiency test in Europe are NOT as accurate or as honest as the US EPA testing. Anyway, I'm curios as to what numbers the 500's imported in the US will have (EPA)
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Yes but i'm not at liberty to divulge where, when, or whos it was or why it was anywhere near me



unfortuneately you can't make out the idle 'shiver' on the video
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A 2 cyl Fiat would great in the US, but because of the car manufacturers' idea of what Americans want, they will try to shoehorn some V8 somethin-er-other in it. I hope they stick a few of these 2 bangers on the lots and see how they sell. Although I'd prefer not to have a turbo on it.
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Oh, gosh, it was rattling about a lot, huh ? but Fiat has worked hard to eliminate vibration on the TwinAir.

126p engine sound/rattling about




Which model do you have ? The Sambar , R2 or the 360/450 ?
A 1970 subaru 360 sedan. Nice little car but I keep plugging darn fuel filters which on gravity feed is nerve racking.

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Since Fiat bought Chrysler we may see this engine in a few small cars. Like maybe offer the 2 cylinder in a Dodge Viper?
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ya, sure , lets's say 4000 cc each ?
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try and damp out that!!!
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...I hope they stick a few of these 2 bangers on the lots and see how they sell. Although I'd prefer not to have a turbo on it.
I don't think they'd even try to sell it without the turbo. And I'm glad they won't, because they would have to up the displacement of the engine to maintain the (perceived) needed performance. At least with the turbo, you can have the basic engine be smaller for the same performance level. Which means that you can drive it in a non-sporty fashion and still pull good FE numbers out of it.

The NVH problem appears to be pretty significant, though. I'm all for smaller engines, but I think two cylinders may be too few for decent comfort in a vehicle with a reasonable (read: light) weight. The three cylinder engines can, if I recall correctly, be made pretty smooth. (Six-cylinder engines even more so, at least for non-shared-journal six-cylinders, but those aren't usually done as fuel-efficient motors anyway.)

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