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Old 08-31-2018, 06:53 PM   #61 (permalink)
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It looks great so far! Maybe next mod could be something along the lines of a boat tail?

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Old 09-02-2018, 07:29 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Wondering what I should do next for mpg?
Sense you now have an AC plug installed .. You could also install a low power (around ~250mA) trickle charger to the IMA NiMH battery .. PeterP has shown some small light little LED driver based ones.

It wouldn't be a big effect per plug in .. but every little bit adds up.
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Old 09-02-2018, 09:56 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Very nice red insight,is this the same one you had issues with on insight central,with insurance issues and wanting not to claim it on their insurance.
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Old 09-03-2018, 05:50 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Very nice red insight,is this the same one you had issues with on insight central,with insurance issues and wanting not to claim it on their insurance.
Yes it is that one, it ended up in title limbo for close to 5 months, but I got it back in November last year.


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Sense you now have an AC plug installed .. You could also install a low power (around ~250mA) trickle charger to the IMA NiMH battery .. PeterP has shown some small light little LED driver based ones.

It wouldn't be a big effect per plug in .. but every little bit adds up.
I build a grid charger a couple years ago according to the original Mike Dabrowski plans, I still have it. Are you suggesting I plug it into that every day when I'm not driving? Or do you mean like a weaker one? I thought topping off the IMA every day was bad for the battery.

Also, my IMA is dead anyway, I don't get to use it for assist. I can only use it to restart the ICE after forced Auto-Stop. (Actual Auto-Stop, not an injector-kill ICE stall.)
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How is the driving with IMA compared to without IMA? MPG, downshifting on hills, livability?
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I've never driven a G1 with a good IMA so I can't answer like a comparison question. I'd assume things are harder without.

There are some steep hills near where I live. I just take them in second gear until they shallow out near the top and I can go into third. Sometimes for long highway hills I'll go from 5th to 4th, but I try to hit them with speed when possible.

Livability? Whenever I sit in the seat of this car I only drive for MPG, nothing else. I am trying to get the highest numbers possible. My record was 81.6 at just over 800 miles and just under 10 gallons. If I know I can't hypermile on a given day I'll drive my G2 Insight so I don't ruin the numbers on this G1. Previous owner sold it to me because of P1449 IMA deterioration and a couple other problems. She had a lifetime MPG of like 84, it's only gone down since I've driven it. She didn't have an EFAS button or aero panels or anything like that so I've got some advantages but I'm guessing what's holding me back is dead IMA and hills on my commute.

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Do you still have Auto Stop, since your battery is still connected but isn't strong enough to drive with assist?
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Do you still have Auto Stop, since your battery is still connected but isn't strong enough to drive with assist?
Yes, even better, I have a button on my shifter that lets me go into Auto-Stop any time I want. This is not an injector-kill switch, it's an Auto-Stop switch, the ICE turns off and all, but all I need to do to restart it is shift into gear or press the accelerator and the IMA restarts the engine.



That's my setup. EFAS is on the shifter, clutch switch is that light on the left, those cruise buttons aren't actually cruise, the top is an alternate location for clutch switch and bottom is a brake switch.
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Can anyone recommend a lighter 12v battery which will be able to start the car if the IMA doesn't start the car, AND which won't set on fire?
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Also, this is my Auto-Stop button in action:


Maybe the video shows what I'm talking about better than I can explain it. Just watch the tachometer and the Auto-Stop indicator. I can get Auto-Stop whenever I want at well over 19 MPH.

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