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Old 07-03-2019, 11:30 AM   #51 (permalink)
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The design of my Jeep's 4.0L straight-six has the fuel rail, intake manifold and exhaust manifold all stacked up together on one side of the engine, and the exhaust downpipes coming off the manifold also have a couple of small cats right below that. So, this design seems to concentrate a lot of heat under the hood which heats it like a griddle. Jeep even issued a corrective measure for some models which involved wrapping some of the injectors and/or fuel rails in insulated foil material to help prevent the fuel boiling, vaporizing and causing hot-start issues.

About using spacers to raise the rear of the hood, it does work, and it works best at slow speeds and when stopped. However, when running at speeds on the highway, I'm told it can be less satisfactory because a high-pressure site develops in the central cowl area due to wind hitting the windshield. The effect of a raised hood in the rear is said to be the engine bay air sometimes can be forced backwards, which some believe can hinder air flow through the radiator. However, I suspect that problem is more theoretical than practical.

About the additional mileage expectations: I wouldn't hold my breath about that. I doubt you'll be able to measure the difference due to hood venting. At least I know I haven't been able to.

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Old 07-10-2019, 01:49 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I installed my hood vents two days ago. I wasn't able to do A-B testing because it was windy when I finished--my results would not have been accurate. These hood vents do appear to let a lot of heat out, which is good. My mileage does seem to be higher than normal. My morning drive to work is usually 22.5-23.5 mpg. Yesterday I got 23.9 and today I averaged 24.1. I can't conclusively say they've improved mileage at this point, but they definitely aren't harming anything.
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I installed my hood vents two days ago. I wasn't able to do A-B testing because it was windy when I finished--my results would not have been accurate. These hood vents do appear to let a lot of heat out, which is good. My mileage does seem to be higher than normal. My morning drive to work is usually 22.5-23.5 mpg. Yesterday I got 23.9 and today I averaged 24.1. I can't conclusively say they've improved mileage at this point, but they definitely aren't harming anything.
If your original cooling system was anything like a late 1980's passenger car,a 'ideal',racing type cooling system could get you 24.38 mpg tops.
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If your original cooling system was anything like a late 1980's passenger car,a 'ideal',racing type cooling system could get you 24.38 mpg tops.
Can you elaborate on what an ideal cooling system is?

I'm thinking about putting vents in the wheel wells too. This would improve airflow through the engine bay in addition to keeping my brakes cooler at lower speeds.
I think that venting the wheel wells might improve mpg slightly at highway speeds because my wheel wells are a high pressure area.
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See also P-51 'Meredith effect'.
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I'm thinking about putting vents in the wheel wells too. This would improve airflow through the engine bay in addition to keeping my brakes cooler at lower speeds.
I think that venting the wheel wells might improve mpg slightly at highway speeds because my wheel wells are a high pressure area.
If you mean venting radiator air to the wheel housing, I've noticed this on many, many cars. The new Insight does this:



Some large sedans do, like the Lincoln Town Car and Lexus LS500:



And large trucks, like the Land Cruiser:



(All pictures are of the front of the wheel well, looking toward the front of the vehicle).
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Different to an air curtain then?


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That's pretty cool actually. I meant venting outside air inside the engine bay. So it would probably need to be placed on top or near the back.

Perhaps doing both would have benefits?
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1936 Ford inner fender panel.

http://lbcunited.com/earlyford2/imag...R%20PANELS.jpg

I believe those are oriented to exhaust air.
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The design of my Jeep's 4.0L straight-six has the fuel rail, intake manifold and exhaust manifold all stacked up together on one side of the engine, and the exhaust downpipes coming off the manifold also have a couple of small cats right below that. So, this design seems to concentrate a lot of heat under the hood which heats it like a griddle. Jeep even issued a corrective measure for some models which involved wrapping some of the injectors and/or fuel rails in insulated foil material to help prevent the fuel boiling, vaporizing and causing hot-start issues.

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About the additional mileage expectations: I wouldn't hold my breath about that. I doubt you'll be able to measure the difference due to hood venting. At least I know I haven't been able to.
As above, an XJ will run below ideal thermostat op temp if the short section of cowl gasket not re-installed. It’s a mpg penalty in cool weather when left open (especially highway).

Problem otherwise stated correctly as to underhood temp problem. It’s genuine, it’s not hard to alleviate, and it’s seasonal.

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