We need ultra light four wheeled cars

[All Darc]

I supose it's worth for dogs/pets and toddlers, but not for a grow-up, as it would became too heavy.

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

So absolutely no interest in a bike with a detachable side car? The brits do dogs in there all the time.

[Bicycle Bob]

FWIW, A friend toured with a 40 lb (18 kg) dog who would happily hop on and off his bicycle trailer, according to how fast it was going, etc. He knew to keep right and listen for orders, so they both had a carefree time. Dogs are generally eager to help if they understand a harness; they would probably prefer a soft chest plate to push against so they can still stop for squirrels.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

So absolutely no interest in a bike with a detachable side car? The brits do dogs in there all the time.

Nowadays in Brazil side-cars are considered a fixed bodywork, it's not possible to title them separately as if they were analogue to a trailer.

[All Darc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHnV8kctQdg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i4o8Pmnhs4

[sendler]

A 250cc motorcycle does me just fine when there is no ice on the road. But most people are unable to safely use one like I can. And it does nothing for me in the winter. Even with a sidecar. Which started in November this year and is still going through the end of March. The world really needs a super aero, tandem seat, 300 mpge, 4 wheeled enclosed car.

[Piotrsko]

Originally Posted by sendler

The world really needs a super aero, tandem seat, 300 mpge, 4 wheeled enclosed car.

That can survive collisions with idiots in big diesel pick ups

[Hersbird]

We have a guy who rides a Ural with sidecar (which makes it 2wd) every day to work even when we had 24" of fresh snow and non wind adjusted 50 below freezing temps. It does better than a lot of other things, but he doesn't have any highway in his drive.

[Bicycle Bob]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

That can survive collisions with idiots in big diesel pick ups

Or automatic rockets to get it out of harm's way?
Seriously, if driving has no perceived risk to the driver, the landscape takes a beating. Any "safe zone" tends to create a surrounding danger zone, while depriving the inhabitants of their natural zest for life.

In '57, Ford buried a safety car they'd built, because nobody wanted to talk safety. Now, we are being sold racing-car grade stuff just because we can be scared into paying big bucks to buy it and haul it around.

I don't mind designing so that most of the structure is useful and safe in a crash, but I'd opt for nimble instead of crush proof, and trying to match momentum with a truck is obviously a non-starter.

In the middle ages, books had brass corners on the covers to prevent wear. More important books got fancier corners, until they were like jewelled feet, keeping the book from touching a table with the rest of the binding. Very safe, yes? Except that every less valuable book in a collection was getting gouged by every more valuable book, until librarians banned metal completely.

[Frank Lee]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

We have a guy who rides a Ural with sidecar (which makes it 2wd) every day to work even when we had 24" of fresh snow and non wind adjusted 50 below freezing temps. It does better than a lot of other things, but he doesn't have any highway in his drive.

Saw my first biker of the year yesterday. We are finally getting some above freezing temps and the roads are clearing, except for all that winter sand, gravel, and salt.

[Piotrsko]

I was actually making the request that the vehicle allows the occupants enough safety to survive random demonstrations of the 3rd physics law. Sacrificial vehicle?

See also my comments about being ran over from behind on the on ramps.

If it is light enough push it out of the way which might be the logic of the reasonable safety record of the Smart Car.

I am a fan of John Muirs Compleat Idiot's Guide to the Volkswagen manual: if everyone was strapped to the outside front of their bus, head on accident rates would go way down. Also: Consious Driving, Mon.