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Old 10-11-2020, 05:04 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Not a car that will be known to most people here, but a mid-1990s Australian EF Ford Falcon. I always thought (and think) they had the cooling intake about right (and it's a hot country and the car was spec'd for towing reasonable loads).

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Old 10-11-2020, 01:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Unfortunately a majority of new cars sit of freeways in stop and traffic with the air conditioning on. Cooling systems are designed to drive to Death Valley in the summer so everyone gets to enjoy the added grill capacity.
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JuilianEdgar calls his shots. What's the VW example?

Or are you saying just cars with similar air intake openings? The Taurus and the Passat both have an upper opening in the corporate emblem.
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My Golf has an intake around the emblem. I can block off everything else as long as OAT is below 50 degrees F, above that gauging errors make me uncomfortable that the computer will not overheat the system
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Unfortunately a majority of new cars sit of freeways in stop and traffic with the air conditioning on. Cooling systems are designed to drive to Death Valley in the summer so everyone gets to enjoy the added grill capacity.
That's true, but it doesn't explain why there is a design fad to make the grill appear larger than it actually is.

aerohead's explanation seemed to make sense to me; that there's little aero penalty to styling the front of the vehicle, so that's the area designers get more freedom to differentiate the brand.

Unfortunately the current fad seems to differentiate the brand through ever expanding faux grills.
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' Skunkworks' cooling

I believe that it was Walter Korff, Chief Engineer, Lockheed Aircraft Company,( designer of Goldenrod ) in 1963, who gave us the cooling inlet used even today by all NASCAR teams. Full-width of radiator, at 1/6th radiator height, into an air-tight diverging nozzle, widening to full radiator height within the bodywork.
It was enough to keep a 426-hemi alive at beyond 200-mph at Daytona or Bonneville.
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EVs have some pretty bad looking grilles too.
The Leaf appears to be wearing braces.
I know what you are thinking : but at least in the case of the Leaf, the grille is blocked.

There is a fellow in my apts with one of these BMWs with the oversize grille. On closer inspection, almost the entire grille is blocked, with just tiny slits that are open.
So the main difference is that with the Leaf, the grille is the body color.

Here is an article that mentions some of the details Mercedes has put into the aero on the front grille of the car. ( farther down in the article ) It mentions how they put features such as scoops and such to good use to reduce drag.
https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2...pact-bodywork/

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