05-17-2015, 02:20 PM
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hybrid battery health report from dealer
I'm still actively watching my area ads for a Prius. Prices have gone looney tunes (way up) in the past couple of weeks. Spring fever?
A few weeks ago I was ready to go look at an '03 that had average kilometers and a bunch of non-hybrid issues (exhaust, wheel bearing, etc.) for a good price ($1200), but the seller was TERRIBLE at returning calls & messages and it sold before we could connect. That's three now I've missed that I probably would have bought (one 1st gen, two 2nd gens).
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1) Battery pack health: How can a person check the battery condition of a car when buying from an individual seller ? Can a standard garage do this check, or must a dealer visit be scheduled for this?
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One thing the seller said was he had a Toyota dealer inspect the hybrid battery before he decided whether he'd was going to sell it or repair & keep it. He said the dealer told him the pack was about "half worn out".
A bit of researching uncovered:
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If your paying for a dealer investigation they will charge you one hour labor and hook up there proprietary Techstream Software laptop to the OBD port on the car and give the Hybrid battery a look see. Ask for a full printout of the Hybrid battery particulars including the battery 'Delta".
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That's from Prius Chat, and unfortunately there's no more info provided than that. But it seems to confirm it is possible to get a battery condition report from Toyota.
I don't know what the "Delta" is (the thread doesn't explain it), but if I had to guess, I'd say it might be divergence in capacity/SOC between subpacks which reduces overall pack capacity, like the Honda packs.
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05-17-2015, 10:08 PM
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A friend told me that the first gen still had belt PS or AC or both, whereas one or both ofnthose are electric on the second gen.
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It doesn't make sense when we think about its driveline layout, but I've never seen a 1st-gen Prius.
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05-17-2015, 10:22 PM
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Wiki says the first gen car had electric power steering. Not sure about A/C.
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05-17-2015, 10:42 PM
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A/C was engine driven in the gen 1. The electric power steering was also different, on the gen 1 it is in the rack, on the gen 2 it is in the column.
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05-18-2015, 05:36 AM
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I have seen some quotes about the 2nd-gen Prius being the first car ever to not have any accessory belt.
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05-19-2015, 02:38 AM
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The 2nd gen Prius has a water pump belt.
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05-19-2015, 03:03 AM
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The 2nd gen Prius has a water pump belt.
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Actually, it was the current (3rd-gen) one which introduced the electric water pump
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07-22-2015, 01:35 PM
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Slightly old thread bump...
I am going to look at a 3rd owner Prius that looks very well maintained in the pictures. 143,000 miles with a price of $4,500 firm.
There are two people coming to look at it today. So my wife and I are going soon. This is to replace the Mazda5 - double the gas mileage! My Civic is gone and I got a Durango...long story!!
This thread was useful! Thanks!
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07-22-2015, 01:43 PM
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That's a decent price for that many miles, if it's in decent shape. What year?
Good luck & keep us posted.
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07-22-2015, 01:44 PM
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PS: I thought you started out with a Durango, pre-Metro days? Memory is foggy.
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