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Old 07-06-2022, 03:52 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I had a pair of 1992 Geo Metro's my wife would drive around in when she did her Marketing thing. They paid her to drive her Mercedes Sedan, but never checked. She'd drive one Metro into the ground and then I'd give her the other one to abuse while I rebuilt the first one. Both died of body rot at about 300K miles. I still have one engine and 5 speed in the storage. We still have the 87 Mercedes sedan her company paid for.

One weekend, my wife wasn't off at a convention so she decided to help me replace the engine. After draining fluids and disconnecting the transmission, exhaust, intake and the few electrical/fluid connections I went off to get the engine lift. I came back to find the engine missing! I found my wife wandering around with it! I told her to put it down! So she walked over to the work cart and plopped it down. Then she pushed it into the shop. I guess Bally's must have really helped her physical capabilities because she's 100 pounds and change. Then again, when stripped, aluminum block, three-cylinder Metro engines don't weigh much.
There is a difference between what could be done and what is actually done by most people in the real world. What percentage of people in the USA do you think can do an engine swap? Personally I would put it in the single digits. The VAST majority of people have all their car maintenance done by mechanics which charge a hefty. Which is why the vast majority of old cars go to the scrapyard when they develop a major problem. Yes, there are always exceptions to the rule.

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I am sure that I could do an engine swap, but I estimate that I would need 1-5 years!
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What percentage of people in the USA do you think can do an engine swap? Personally I would put it in the single digits.
It depends on the engine and the car. Drop an LS1 in a Mini?
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LS1-Swapped 1977 Austin Mini A stock Mini from 1977 arrived from the factory with around 40 hp and 50 lb-ft of torque. The original Mini is also tiny, and not the obvious candidate for a...
Maybe 0.1%, one in a thousand? R&R a Beetle engine. Your average hippie Compleat Idiot can do that.

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I didn't finish reading your comment before I did a search. The guy who did this is a 6'7", so he fits in the Mini about as well as the Corvette engine:
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It depends on the engine and the car....
Something simple like a 2000 Civic. Also something representative of what is on the road today in volume not an ancient air-cooled VW. What percentage of the US population would attempt to pull a Civic engine from their daily driver and replace it with a reman or junkyard engine? I'd say less than 5%.
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Maybe a DX, LX, or EX, but car-part doesn't even show an engine for my HX in Arizona. It only shows 2 in all of the U.S., one for $750 in Modesto with 127,000 miles.

I could visit my grandparents' grave.

Is a 2002 Civic closer to a 2000 base Civic, or a 1999 Accord?

Car-part asked if I had EGR. I don't think so, but how can I tell?

Well, according to Darcane, only the 2001-2002 Civics with VTEC and the 2003+ Civics had EGR, which is curious, because I have cleaned out the EGR in my 2000 Civic twice!

Unfortunately, CappAttack's Civic was totaled 3 weeks later, a month and a half after he bought the car!
2002 civic LX coupe: missing electrical connector for EGR valve

I had previously looked on LKQ for a 2002 Civic engine. The cheapest one they have for my car has 158,000 miles and they would charge $1,500 shipped!

I couldn't search for 2000 Civic engines. When I put in 2000 Civic it showed Engine Compartment, but not engines.

LKQ on eBay will ship me a 2002 Civic engine with 80,000 miles for $860.

I forget where I saw $1,300 engine and transmission combinations. I probably searched importers' sites.

Searching eBay just shows engines, not a single transmission when I queried "engine and transmission 2002 Honda Civic LX Coupe 2-Door 1.7L."

Car-part shows a 2001 Civic for $700, but it doesn't give any other information.

It seems that the sedan and coupe engines aren't interchangeable and I see far more sedan engines.

The only engines car-part shows that specify fitment are for sedans.

A & G Auto Wrecking has a 2002 Accord engine with unspecified miles for $400. They say "Hot and ready, free local delivery."

Orozco Auto Parts has a 2000 engine with 70,000 miles for $600.

JG Auto Wrecking has a 1998 engine. It looks like it has 218,000 miles for $300.

I had wanted to stop at 3, but All Japanese Auto Parts LLC has a 1998 engine, which came in running with 176,000 miles for $450.

Ran when parked is better than the alternative!

Perhaps Honda builds better engines than transmissions. I found 40 engines for my Accord, but only 8 transmissions!

Some of those are LKQ.

A&G has a 1998 transmission for $400 and A&S has a 1999 transmission with 165,000 miles for $475.

So, in theory, I could drive a Uhaul down, and have an engine and transmission from different cars delivered for $800.

In theory I could have them deliver to a parking lot 20 miles away, but let's say I drive right there. Uhaul won't give me details without giving my credit card information. I logged in. They should have it on file.

They charge $20 plus 69 per mile. It is 187 miles from Uhaul, so it would cost $278 before all taxes and fees.

$1,100 for an engine and transmission that may not be better than mine.

Would any of you guys take the risk?
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What was that line art pic of a Civic's engine plumbing that looked like a subway system map?

I've got a zero-miles boxer four on the bench, and a Lexus electric axle with about the same power. I know which one would go into my Superbeetle more easily.

EMPI or someone should make a free-valve head with an integrated turbo.

edit: Keep the rocker arms and the pneumatic plunger would fit in the old lifter bores. Hmm.....

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