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A: The Challenge/Game of Getting the Most MPG You Can From Your Vehicle 35 47.30%
B: To Lower Emissions 1 1.35%
C: To Save Money 26 35.14%
D: To Conserve and Protect Natural Resources 5 6.76%
E: Other 7 9.46%
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:16 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It's pretty tough to stick with motivation A) as my fuel price has dropped by 31.5 % , fulfilling C) - that is if I even had to pay for it ...
I'm currently using the 500 euro credit I got from a fuel supplier when I bought the GasDwarf, a VW up! on CNG.

At the same my fuel consumption has dropped (albeit in liters to kilos) by 22.5 % .
Tailpipe emissions with CNG are one or two orders of magnitude lower than the diesel I was using before, fulfilling B) .


I'm waiting on somebody to start producing biogas in Belgium, so I can change over to biologically / locally produced natural gas - motivator D) - which I'm trying to help happening.

While you can get biogas in the Netherlands or Germany, Belgium doesn't even have legislation or regulation in place on how to practically make it happen


If things stay the way they are for CNG in Belgium - even relatively speaking compared to other fuels - my VW eco up! is expected to pay for itself over the next 10 years, compared to keeping Hägar the Volvo running.
And that's on the fuel bill alone ...

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Old 07-05-2013, 04:31 PM   #22 (permalink)
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It's pretty tough to stick with motivation A) as my fuel price has dropped by 31.5 % , fulfilling C) - that is if I even had to pay for it ...
I'm currently using the 500 euro credit I got from a fuel supplier when I bought the GasDwarf, a VW up! on CNG.

At the same my fuel consumption has dropped (albeit in liters to kilos) by 22.5 % .
Tailpipe emissions with CNG are one or two orders of magnitude lower than the diesel I was using before, fulfilling B) .


I'm waiting on somebody to start producing biogas in Belgium, so I can change over to biologically / locally produced natural gas - motivator D) - which I'm trying to help happening.

While you can get biogas in the Netherlands or Germany, Belgium doesn't even have legislation or regulation in place on how to practically make it happen


If things stay the way they are for CNG in Belgium - even relatively speaking compared to other fuels - my VW eco up! is expected to pay for itself over the next 10 years, compared to keeping Hägar the Volvo running.
And that's on the fuel bill alone ...
when are you gonna start posting fuel logs?
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Old 07-05-2013, 06:08 PM   #23 (permalink)
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when are you gonna start posting fuel logs?
Well ...
That's a wee bit of a problem

The Garage software doesn't allow for kilograms of CNG.

There are 2 very different gas qualities, H-gas has some 17% more energy in it than L-Gas.
In the US, you probably have different caloric values again, and pounds instead of kg.
That'd probably make it a bit too involved to get this into the Garage software ...

I've been looking for a way to convert kilograms and caloric value to kWh, which is in the Garage, but it ain't that easy without knowing the (variable) density.
I could use an average value, but it wouldn't be correct.


Easiest solution :
I'll put my spritmonitor fuel log in my signature.

[this will be changed to display miles / kg when spritmonitor.de get the conversion properly sorted ]

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C was the reason for me to buy the car, though all apply.
The modding and driving style change, definitely A.
Would rephrase that as 'my hobby'.
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C: To Save Money

altho I havn't "modded" my classic prius yet,

I have modded my garage, and picked up a car that gets double the mpg of its stablemates


I paid $2200 for the car,
and it should pay for itself in fuel savings in about a year of driving my 120 mile/day commute

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