Where does food come from?

[XYZ]

Originally Posted by freebeard

More like I used Occupy to compare and contrast—as if there's anything wrong with collectivism.

Yes, IMHO there is plenty wrong with collectivism, as it is the basis of Socialism. I'm entitled to voice an opinion just as you are permitted to voice yours.

It sounds like it's helpful to you to normalize everything onto a Left-Right axis. Individualist anarchism is leftist with it's emphasis on indidual rights, under a hierarchy (with psychiatrists at the top).

You say individualists are leftist? With "psychiatrists at the top"?

Oh, my. This twist of reality is supposed to be convincing? If you can't rouse 'em with rhetoric, baffle 'em with bull****.

Social anarchism is... elsewhere? Call it Agorism or Mutualism, if that helps.

No. You are a master at obfuscation and constantly shifting and changing political terminology to try to muddy the waters. Elsewhere? Yes, you have a mastery of introducing unfamiliar political terms and steering the discussion into "elsewhere".

I'm not that good at political theory. Have another lyric:

Au contraire. You are a master of politics. That is why you only speak cryptically, in lyrics.

Trolling for supporters?

Just remember this. If this discussion was taken in a political direction anyone can now respond to it.

I don't quote lyrics or speak cryptically. Instead, here are a few quotes from an American President:

"When even one American - who has done nothing wrong - is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth - then all Americans are in peril."

And for those who might whine and complain about The Lounge, (although no one is forcing them to read it):

"If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

[XYZ]

Originally Posted by California98Civic

I don't mind civil if vigorous political disagreements in my life, but the main forum page describes the purpose of the Lounge this way: "For the way off-topic topics (lighter stuff). Please - no political/religious discussion."

Why do you read it then?

Just to complain to management, that whatever is discussed in The Lounge shouldn't be allowed?

Do you want censure by force?

"When even one American - who has done nothing wrong - is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth - then all Americans are in peril."

[XYZ]

Originally Posted by freebeard

The Romans had the Forum for their politics and the Agora for their marketplace. Apparently they strictly separated them like we do r******* and p*******.

Is "r******* and p*******" meant to be religion and politics?

What are you afraid of? Why can't you bring yourself to say those words without fear? Are they verboten (forbidden) as another old, authoritarian society might make them?

Agorism looks to the marketplace for solutions, so it's inherently 'apolitical'. Sort of like being a libertarian.

You use lots of arcane terms - to circumvent and try to advance your own radical political agenda.

At least we got XYZ to agree that hippies are the true conservatives.

No, you didn't. That is only what YOU stated and maintained. Everyone here can review the thread and realize that that is a LIE.

They will then also realize that you have no credibility.

[wdb]

OMG 3 more pages of posts in this thread.

Originally Posted by XYZ

The Lounge is about OPINIONS. Good, bad, indifferent - political of every stripe - all opinions are allowed and accepted as long as civility is maintained.

Okay, so...

I don't understand that last paragraph, although it is good that you may have leanrned something. However it does seem to me that you may have a problem with tolerating a difference of opinion, especially from those who think differently than you. BTW, I'm not much of a Conservative. But I'm not trying to silence anyone, either.

So if what is said in The Lounge upsets you, don't read what is said there.

...why do you say uncivil, presumptuous, dismissive stuff like this?

And, who hid the jar of sauce? My spaghetti is a tad dry.

[Frank Lee]

unsubbed. have fun boys.

[freebeard]

Awwww, we lost Frank.

Posts at 8:12, 8:15 and 8:28? I just click Edit and accept that there will be a notice at the bottom of the post.

Originally Posted by XYZ

You say individualists are leftist? With "psychiatrists at the top"?

Oh, my. This twist of reality is supposed to be convincing? If you can't rouse 'em with rhetoric, baffle 'em with bull****.

"I was raised up believing I was somehow unique [L]ike a snowflake distinct among snowflakes, unique in each way you can see" Sounds Republican right? The part about psychiatrists was an attempt at levity. Gone bad.

It's interesting that you lash out at California98Civic, who simply restated the subforum's remit. I was thinking that they're a Mod, but I guess I'm thinking of MetroMPG.

Is "r******* and p*******" meant to be religion and politics?

[sarcasm]

You use lots of arcane terms - to circumvent and try to advance your own radical political agenda.

Lots of similar terms, hyperlinked to Wikipedia on first use. Radical apolitical agenda.

No, you didn't. That is only what YOU stated and maintained. Everyone here can review the thread and realize that that is a LIE.

Originally Posted by XYZ

OK. Now tell us who the true 'Liberals' are.

I don't quote lyrics or speak cryptically. Instead, here are a few quotes from an American President:

I attribute my quotes, but I'm here to represent, not push an 'agenda'. Take deep, slow breaths.