Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Motorcycles / Scooters
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-24-2012, 01:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 304

sr185 bullet - '81 Yamaha SR185 streamliner
Team Streamliner
90 day: 96.35 mpg (US)

Sunny Colarado - '06 Chevrolet Colarado WT
90 day: 24.18 mpg (US)

cbr250s - '12 Honda cbr250
90 day: 115.29 mpg (US)
Thanks: 27
Thanked 71 Times in 46 Posts
Would anyone be interested in purchasing a Vetter challenge style fairing?

Or even just a tail section?

I am working on tooling to make my fairing and tail out of Fiberglass, and I thought I would throw this out there. I can make as many or as few as are wanted, but the more I make the lower the price per piece. I am working on the tail first, as this is the most universal part. when I am finished it should fit any motorcycle. and mount similar to a set of hard panniers. I will try to keep this thread up to date on my progress with pics and such.

If anyone is interested, let me know so I can figure out how much it will cost, Like I said the more I make the less it costs.

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to bschloop For This Useful Post:
renault_megane_dci (08-24-2012)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 08-24-2012, 01:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 304

sr185 bullet - '81 Yamaha SR185 streamliner
Team Streamliner
90 day: 96.35 mpg (US)

Sunny Colarado - '06 Chevrolet Colarado WT
90 day: 24.18 mpg (US)

cbr250s - '12 Honda cbr250
90 day: 115.29 mpg (US)
Thanks: 27
Thanked 71 Times in 46 Posts
pics of tail being prepared to make into a mold.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	tail finishing 1.JPG
Views:	83
Size:	66.7 KB
ID:	11368   Click image for larger version

Name:	tail finishing 2.JPG
Views:	95
Size:	76.2 KB
ID:	11369  
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2012, 04:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: France - Paris
Posts: 762

la_voiture_de_courses - '03 Renault Megane Estate
OldContinents
90 day: 44.34 mpg (US)

xiao lan - '01 Audi A2
90 day: 38.88 mpg (US)

Brit iron - '92 Mini Mini
90 day: 45.5 mpg (US)

Prius - '09 Toyota PRIUS Lounge
90 day: 47.37 mpg (US)

Beemer - '06 BMW F800 ST
90 day: 53.06 mpg (US)
Thanks: 188
Thanked 33 Times in 30 Posts
It's a shame I am in France as I would have been interested ...
Anyway, I am about to pick up a full front off a Suzuki SV 650 including lighting and clip on barr at a bargain price so it will cheer me up :-D
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2012, 04:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: California
Posts: 40

Hyosung - '07 Hyosung gt250r
90 day: 55.49 mpg (US)

Burgman - '07 Burgman 650 k7
Thanks: 8
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
I am interested in buying a front section if you could attach universal mounts. Put sufficient air holes in it to prevent overheating. I am interested in a rear section depending on price.
Could you ship in pieces to attach together to save on postage?
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2012, 09:40 AM   #5 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 304

sr185 bullet - '81 Yamaha SR185 streamliner
Team Streamliner
90 day: 96.35 mpg (US)

Sunny Colarado - '06 Chevrolet Colarado WT
90 day: 24.18 mpg (US)

cbr250s - '12 Honda cbr250
90 day: 115.29 mpg (US)
Thanks: 27
Thanked 71 Times in 46 Posts
for the front, I could mold in cooling ducts, but cooling is very dependent on the specific bike. A liquid cooled 150cc scooter will require little to no front opening, while larger air cooled bikes will need all the help they can get.

Mounting would also be somewhat different for each bike, a universal upper mount is possible. the lower mounts might have to be tweaked for each different bike.

I am going to design this to ship as small as possible and to assemble without any fiberglassing on the part of the purchaser similar to fairing kits for sportbikes.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 06:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Rhome Texas
Posts: 34
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
So, do you work for or with Craig Vetter? And has he given you permission to use his name on or in your products description? Is this his design, or your copy of his design?

I like his design. In fact I will eventually purchase one of his fairings for a Burgman I have my eye on.

So I guess I'm askig is are you affiliatted with Mr. Vetter and his products?
If not that could open you up for all kinds of Lawsuits?
Called "Copyright Infringments"!

Mr Vetter is not some young garage monkey with lofty ideas. He's far beyond that!

And yes, he's played this game before!

He invented the Modern Fiberglass Motorcycle Fairing.

Just thought I'd point this out to you that you have put yourself in a very precarious financial situation if you are using his Name without permission.

Might want to contact him and get his blessings before you continue.

Building areodynamic fairings for motorcycles is fine, but marketing a Vetter Challenge Fairing and making a profit off it is not the best way to do business.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 05:56 AM   #7 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: France - Paris
Posts: 762

la_voiture_de_courses - '03 Renault Megane Estate
OldContinents
90 day: 44.34 mpg (US)

xiao lan - '01 Audi A2
90 day: 38.88 mpg (US)

Brit iron - '92 Mini Mini
90 day: 45.5 mpg (US)

Prius - '09 Toyota PRIUS Lounge
90 day: 47.37 mpg (US)

Beemer - '06 BMW F800 ST
90 day: 53.06 mpg (US)
Thanks: 188
Thanked 33 Times in 30 Posts
This advice is very valid (especially in this lawyer country of yours), you'd better change the name of the thread (despite it says "style" and refers to the Vetter Challenge and not the Vetter fairing, the Vetter Challenge featuring a wide range of homemade streamliner fairings ...)

(we really live in a crazy world ...)
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2012, 11:26 AM   #8 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 304

sr185 bullet - '81 Yamaha SR185 streamliner
Team Streamliner
90 day: 96.35 mpg (US)

Sunny Colarado - '06 Chevrolet Colarado WT
90 day: 24.18 mpg (US)

cbr250s - '12 Honda cbr250
90 day: 115.29 mpg (US)
Thanks: 27
Thanked 71 Times in 46 Posts
I am not affiliated in any way with Mr. Vetter. I am using the term "Vetter Challenge style", because this is the fairing I designed for, and have ridden with in the Vetter Fuel Economy Challenge. maybe I could just call it what it is, a dustbin fairing with a tail.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2012, 08:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Elmira, NY
Posts: 1,781
Thanks: 319
Thanked 355 Times in 297 Posts
I have followed the Vetter Challenges for a number of years. I would say that your design is more than a dust bin and tail piece. It is a full body motorcycle fairing system. I would suggest you have a long talk with Craig Vetter as he is planning sales of his design and has considerable experience in maunfacturing and marketing. So far shipping fairings has been the biggest drawback to sales, not price or quality. Michigan is a good location for East Coast distribution and there are likely many businesses there that could economically produce fairings given a good design. It is the step from basement prototype to marketable product that is very steep unless you have some business knowledge. That is where I am with bicycle fairings for commuter bikes. Good hunting.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2012, 04:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 304

sr185 bullet - '81 Yamaha SR185 streamliner
Team Streamliner
90 day: 96.35 mpg (US)

Sunny Colarado - '06 Chevrolet Colarado WT
90 day: 24.18 mpg (US)

cbr250s - '12 Honda cbr250
90 day: 115.29 mpg (US)
Thanks: 27
Thanked 71 Times in 46 Posts
I personally think that price is also a large factor in aftermarket fairing sales. I researched what was available before building my own fairing, and came to the conclusion that the only currently available fairings were more cost than they were worth, since they are mostly designed for land speed racing. they don't even come close to meeting the requirements for a competition like the Vetter Challenge, and would not be very practical for everyday use. Craig's goal is to create a generation of truly useful high MPG machines, and I agree with him that to date this is not commercially available. Once Craig begins selling his kit, we will have one option. My hope is to put a second option on the table, but this is still a dream in the works for now. it looks like this year I should focus on finishing my prototype, and we'll see what happens after.

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to bschloop For This Useful Post:
renault_megane_dci (09-18-2012)
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com