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Old 11-14-2013, 11:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Try driving constuction equipment with hydrostatic drive with a forward/revers pedal and no bracke pedal at all. Some types of fork lifts on hilly construction sites are lots of fun to, because to control speed going down hill you have to give it full throatle, because if you are off the throatle you are free wheeling and accelerating and no brake pedal!!!?

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Old 11-14-2013, 11:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The old John Deeres with hand clutches had a brake pedal under each foot. And there are all manner of control set-ups on lawn and garden equipment.
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Old 11-15-2013, 01:50 AM   #13 (permalink)
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here is a rally driver that spends a lot of time covering the brake once in the taller gears and uses his left foot a lot, even switches feet during braking at one point so he can get back on the gas sooner. Again, NOT economy style The second one is more intense



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Old 11-15-2013, 03:14 AM   #14 (permalink)
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The second one is more intense
... and you can see he's using the brake lever in the 2nd one too... amazing coordination considering how much is going on!!
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I've done it in some very... odd circumstances, but generally no.
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As Old Mech said, you will have much better reaction times if you don't have to lift off the accelerator before pushing on the brake with the same foot.
In an automatic.

In a manual car it's a pretty long way from the foot rest to the brake, passing the clutch pedal .


Indoor Karts over here have an interlock so you can't brake and gas it at the same time.
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here is a rally driver that spends a lot of time covering the brake once in the taller gears and uses his left foot a lot, even switches feet during braking at one point so he can get back on the gas sooner. Again, NOT economy style
If he pushes in the clutch, the whole pedal assembly (or at least the gas) goes down with it - why would that be

Or is it some tricky linking to keep the revs up on a race engine that may like to rev high, but also drops its rpm like a block of lead ?
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I think if you think you need that extra 1/4 of a second of reaction time to get to the brake pedal out on the street, you are doing it wrong.
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If he pushes in the clutch, the whole pedal assembly (or at least the gas) goes down with it - why would that be ?
That is known as heel-toe technique, his heel is pressing on the gas to keep the revs up or match downshift rpm (and possibly the turbo spooled up) while his toe is on the brake.
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I will say that I cover the brake a lot more in school zones, or if there seems to be a higher probability of someone coming out into traffic unexpectedly (i.e. drunk people by the bars and I'm stuck in the right lane). But I don't cover it as a rule of thumb, and since most of my miles are EOC I don't have to rely on my left foot to do it.

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