2023 Toyota Prius - WOW!

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by raubvogel

Didn't either the Lexus LS450h or the 600h have 2-speed transmission?

No. They have the same normal HSD setup, just scaled up and switched from transverse to longitudinal. IIRC only Toyota and Hino trucks have a gearbox added to the HSD, and with more than 2-speed.

[hayden55]

Originally Posted by Phase

Idk about that. In warmer weather, when I hyper mile my Ioniq around Beaverton and Hillsboro, I average 82-84 mpg city driving. Don’t know any nonhybrids that get that in city driving with stops

Not to mention if i get 94 miles per gallon if I have CC on going 50 mph. And I get 50 mpg at 80mph. And about 45-46 mpg going 90 miles per hour in open desert interstates. Don’t know many other cars with those numbers besides a few diesels that people have said it’s possible, but personally never seen them post proof.

Do you videos of some of these? Thats wild

[Phase]

Originally Posted by hayden55

Do you videos of some of these? Thats wild

I post a lot of the screenshots on my Ioniq thread on here or when I do the road trips. I just did a 30 mile stretch and averaged 91 mpg at 55 mph cruise control last week with my newest aero mod. I’ll be posting a YouTube review and video about it this week

[raubvogel]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I've become disillusioned because of a bad experience on black ice and I no longer would put the energy into a project with an open differential.

While I agree with that, AFAIK, only in the 80s VW started adding LSD to their watercooled FWD cars.

Originally Posted by freebeard

Nowadays I favor the complete FUV drivetrain and suspension as a unit. There are flood victim FUV awaiting the insurance companiy's release.

What is FUV?

With that said, I would like to talk more about this but I feel this becomes off-topic in this thread. I do like you the threads you mentioned

[freebeard]

The only water-cooled VW I've owned was the 1979 Dasher diesel.

Arcimoto FUV were manufactured just across the river in Eugene, OR. They sold stock in the company, which made them vulnerable to bad actors. The 'short squeeze' tanked their stock values, so even though they had a viable product they went under. Maybe a thousand or two in existence.

Xist's thread on them: ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/arcimoto-real-thing-12k-tandem-ev-trike-70-a-32962.html

[Ecky]

Originally Posted by Phase

I post a lot of the screenshots on my Ioniq thread on here or when I do the road trips. I just did a 30 mile stretch and averaged 91 mpg at 55 mph cruise control last week with my newest aero mod. I’ll be posting a YouTube review and video about it this week

Do you have any full tank fuel logs? With hybrids, fuel use can be deceptively low one day, and deceptively high another.

[Phase]

Originally Posted by Ecky

Do you have any full tank fuel logs? With hybrids, fuel use can be deceptively low one day, and deceptively high another.

https://youtu.be/fPV1FE-0UOE?si=YsmiEEQ0gklbkqb6

I’m talking about steady state mpg with cruise control. Lots of other factors over the course of a 700 mile tank affect the mpg. Like cold starts. City driving. Accelerating. Flooring it to pass someone. Running heating or ac systems wind direction. Temperature changed and so on.

Whole tank averages show the efficiency of the engine itself. Not the aerodynamics

Which I also learned that Hyundai engines suck for cold starts and short trips versus Toyota, which the Prius uses a special coolant warming system to help mpg with city driving and getting cabin heat

[Ecky]

Originally Posted by Phase

https://youtu.be/fPV1FE-0UOE?si=YsmiEEQ0gklbkqb6

I’m talking about steady state mpg with cruise control. Lots of other factors over the course of a 700 mile tank affect the mpg. Like cold starts. City driving. Accelerating. Flooring it to pass someone. Running heating or ac systems wind direction. Temperature changed and so on.

Whole tank averages show the efficiency of the engine itself. Not the aerodynamics

Which I also learned that Hyundai engines suck for cold starts and short trips versus Toyota, which the Prius uses a special coolant warming system to help mpg with city driving and getting cabin heat

I see 125mpg driving at 30-40mph out of my MX-5, and ~52mpg at 62. However my tank averages tend to be closer to 40, and generally not better than 45 even on road trips (even where I burn an entire tank without stopping), because of whatever environmental factors. On my Insight, I'd have entire trips where the fuel economy was 150+, because the battery charge was a bit high and the car was invisibly bleeding it down to middle charge. Other trips were <65, when I knew the car would get 75-80 at those speeds, because it was invisibly charging in the background. I came to realize sharing instant or even trip fuel economy was disingenuous in that hybird, because a lot was going on in the background.

I've been under the impression the Ioniq is capable of 70-90mpg highway. I'm curious what it actually gets.

[MetroMPG]

I am so, so late to this thread...


Months later, I am still amazed whenever I see a picture / video of this new Prius. What a transformation! I have yet to see one in the real world.


I described it to someone who hadn't yet seen it like this: it's as though Toyota finally gave up trying to make a good-looking Prius, so they subcontracted the styling to Tesla.

[Phase]

I took the new Prius for a test drive. Def feels weird with the smooth cvt versus my ioniqs dct. It has more horsepower but the kick doesn’t feel like it. It’s very easy to hyper mile though. I got 59 mpg average with city driving in the AWD version wit climate control on. The trunk space is smaller though and the windshield being angled more is a bit weird when first getting in. Sadly supplies and prices are still not the best right now.

I am going to attempt to sell my Ioniq and get the 2024 awd prius in the spring though