Go Back   EcoModder Forum > Introductions
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-16-2015, 10:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Al, USA
Posts: 38

Fiesta - '14 Ford Fiesta Hatch SFE Ecoboost
Team Turbocharged!
90 day: 42.46 mpg (US)

Cruze - '18 Chevy Cruze LT
90 day: 50.23 mpg (US)
Thanks: 17
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Trying to give my Ecoboost Fiesta longer legs

My car(14 fiesta 1.0 3cyl turbo) is already pretty thrifty, but I'm really interested in the potential. One of the guys in the Fiesta Faction forum is experimenting with deboosting when not a lot of power is demanded; we will see how that works. Using a button on the dash, to energize a solenoid to open the waste gate.
Anyway, I look forward to implementing a few mods I have seen here. My main path forward is to improve aerodynamics, but not to alter the look too much.
Great to have all this knowledge at my finger tips!

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 02-16-2015, 10:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
Spaced out...
 
spacemanspif's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Dirty Jersey
Posts: 748

The New Focus - '07 Ford Focus ZX5
90 day: 32.44 mpg (US)
Thanks: 142
Thanked 205 Times in 149 Posts
Does the turbo create much boost while on light throttle cruising? Should only be "boosting" under acceleration for the most part, but running 5psi on a flat highway could increase consumption unless the 1.0 is so weak that it can't sustain 65mph without the turbo's help.
__________________
-Mike

2007 Ford Focus ZX5 - 91k - SGII, pending upper and lower grill bocks - auto trans
1987 Monte Carlo SS - 5.3/4L80E swap - 13.67 @ 106
2007 Ford Focus Estate - 230k - 33mpg - Retired 4/2018
1995 Saturn SL2 - 256K miles - 44mpg - Retired 9/2014

Cost to Operate Spreadsheet for "The New Focus"

  Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2015, 10:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Al, USA
Posts: 38

Fiesta - '14 Ford Fiesta Hatch SFE Ecoboost
Team Turbocharged!
90 day: 42.46 mpg (US)

Cruze - '18 Chevy Cruze LT
90 day: 50.23 mpg (US)
Thanks: 17
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by spacemanspif View Post
Does the turbo create much boost while on light throttle cruising? Should only be "boosting" under acceleration for the most part, but running 5psi on a flat highway could increase consumption unless the 1.0 is so weak that it can't sustain 65mph without the turbo's help.
My Scangauge does not show boost, but some of the other guys are using a bluetooth app on their phones and say, that the cars are under boost to some degree most all the time.
The guy doing the experimentation says it is drivable in traffic without boost; just pretty slow. We have also discussed the main drawback of unboosting, besides lack of go; inefficient intake and exhaust, when running NA. Like I said, we will see what his testing shows.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2015, 10:57 AM   #4 (permalink)
Master Novice
 
elhigh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SE USA - East Tennessee
Posts: 2,314

Josie - '87 Toyota Pickup
90 day: 29.5 mpg (US)

Felicia - '09 Toyota Prius Base
90 day: 49.47 mpg (US)
Thanks: 427
Thanked 616 Times in 450 Posts
"...drivable in traffic without boost; just pretty slow."

Remember the days of the diesel Chevette? I do. It was considered slow when everything else, by modern standards, was pretty slow. If you're as slow as a diesel Chevette, I'll call that slow. If you can get up to 60 in under 20 seconds - which I pretty much never do in any case - I'll call it acceptable.

Subbed. I'm pretty interested in hearing about a selectable boost Ecoboost.
__________________




Lead or follow. Either is fine.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2015, 11:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Al, USA
Posts: 38

Fiesta - '14 Ford Fiesta Hatch SFE Ecoboost
Team Turbocharged!
90 day: 42.46 mpg (US)

Cruze - '18 Chevy Cruze LT
90 day: 50.23 mpg (US)
Thanks: 17
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Subbed. I'm pretty interested in hearing about a selectable boost Ecoboost.[/QUOTE]

Here is the link: 1.0L "Super Eco" mod thread.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2015, 11:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
Hypermiler
 
PaleMelanesian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,321

PaleCivic (retired) - '96 Honda Civic DX Sedan
90 day: 69.2 mpg (US)

PaleFit - '09 Honda Fit Sport
Team Honda
Wagons
90 day: 44.06 mpg (US)
Thanks: 611
Thanked 434 Times in 284 Posts
Your scangauge may not show boost but it can tell you what's happening with MAP - manifold pressure. Check it when the engine is off to find what ambient pressure is. 14.5 psi or so is what I see. In a Normally Aspirated car like mine, that ambient pressure is the highest you can get at wide open throttle. If your turbo is boosting, you'll see pressure above ambient on this gauge. 7 psi boost = 21.x psi MAP.
__________________



11-mile commute: 100 mpg - - - Tank: 90.2 mpg / 1191 miles
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to PaleMelanesian For This Useful Post:
Daox (02-16-2015)
Old 02-16-2015, 11:56 AM   #7 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Al, USA
Posts: 38

Fiesta - '14 Ford Fiesta Hatch SFE Ecoboost
Team Turbocharged!
90 day: 42.46 mpg (US)

Cruze - '18 Chevy Cruze LT
90 day: 50.23 mpg (US)
Thanks: 17
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaleMelanesian View Post
Your scangauge may not show boost but it can tell you what's happening with MAP - manifold pressure. Check it when the engine is off to find what ambient pressure is. 14.5 psi or so is what I see. In a Normally Aspirated car like mine, that ambient pressure is the highest you can get at wide open throttle. If your turbo is boosting, you'll see pressure above ambient on this gauge. 7 psi boost = 21.x psi MAP.
I was thinking along those lines; I will check it out. Scangauge does not provide the (can't remember the terms scangauge uses for setting different parameters other than how it comes from the company) setting params for the 14 fiesta boost readout.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2015, 12:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
Hypermiler
 
PaleMelanesian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,321

PaleCivic (retired) - '96 Honda Civic DX Sedan
90 day: 69.2 mpg (US)

PaleFit - '09 Honda Fit Sport
Team Honda
Wagons
90 day: 44.06 mpg (US)
Thanks: 611
Thanked 434 Times in 284 Posts
xgauge. Actually, that one's pretty simple. All you have to do is subtract a constant ambient from MAP. I've never programmed mine but I understand a simple bit of math like that is easy.
__________________



11-mile commute: 100 mpg - - - Tank: 90.2 mpg / 1191 miles
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2015, 12:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Al, USA
Posts: 38

Fiesta - '14 Ford Fiesta Hatch SFE Ecoboost
Team Turbocharged!
90 day: 42.46 mpg (US)

Cruze - '18 Chevy Cruze LT
90 day: 50.23 mpg (US)
Thanks: 17
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaleMelanesian View Post
xgauge. Actually, that one's pretty simple. All you have to do is subtract a constant ambient from MAP. I've never programmed mine but I understand a simple bit of math like that is easy.
So your saying, just subtract the 14.5 in an Xgauge and turn the MAP into a boost gauge?
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2015, 12:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
Spaced out...
 
spacemanspif's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Dirty Jersey
Posts: 748

The New Focus - '07 Ford Focus ZX5
90 day: 32.44 mpg (US)
Thanks: 142
Thanked 205 Times in 149 Posts
In my scangauge setting I can switch it from reading MAP or PSI (boost). Does the Fiesta not transmit the data in the same way? Or I might be talking out my a$$ since I've never driven a forced induction car...

Harbor freight has cheap boost/vac gauges which is a good instrument for eco-driving in general and would be worth the money and time spent...

__________________
-Mike

2007 Ford Focus ZX5 - 91k - SGII, pending upper and lower grill bocks - auto trans
1987 Monte Carlo SS - 5.3/4L80E swap - 13.67 @ 106
2007 Ford Focus Estate - 230k - 33mpg - Retired 4/2018
1995 Saturn SL2 - 256K miles - 44mpg - Retired 9/2014

Cost to Operate Spreadsheet for "The New Focus"

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com