09-07-2008, 09:09 PM
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EcoModding Apprentice
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what is every bodies dream FE car ?
what is every bodies dream FE car ?
is it the Audi A2 tdi 1.2L ? is that the best?
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vauxhall corsa 1.0L 50MPG petrol
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09-07-2008, 10:19 PM
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Fear the Mullet!
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I already have a Metro. If I were to want a dream fuel efficient car, I would have to get another one.
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09-07-2008, 10:57 PM
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Wannabe greenie
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Location: Crestline, CA
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John Wayland posted on the EVDL a message about a dream (which I can't find now) about the ultimate Honda Insight EV conversion.
He had mapped out how you could remove all ICE components, install a Siemens AC drive with regen, a high-voltage system using Li-Ion batteries, and get a high-power lightweight efficient 200-mile range sleeper EV without drilling a single hole in the Insight's body, or, to paraphrase him, "without modifying any parts that could not easily be replaced." (He understood that the Insight is a limited run car that one day might be prized by collectors.) Throw in one of his custom Insight sound systems would make the ultimate FE 2-seater.
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09-07-2008, 11:01 PM
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Eva - '85 300D Turbodiesel 90 day: 25.68 mpg (US)
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a turbo diesel hybrid delorean
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09-08-2008, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by modmonster
what is every bodies dream FE car ?
is it the Audi A2 tdi 1.2L ? is that the best?
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If it has to be a real production car, honestly, I'm not sure. It used to be the Citroen C4 Diesel-Hybrid Concept, but they dropped the idea.
I know they don't sell it in the U.S., that's for sure  It would have to be the Honda Fit/Jazz or Prius for now.
I like the Acura CSX in Canada, but I'm a bit rusty on the European options.
WhatCar? Magazine is one of my favorites -- when they have the collective roundup of cars available in the UK (Top Gear Mag has a similar issue). Do you have a favorite magazine or reference?
RH77
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09-08-2008, 12:57 AM
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An Aptera, of course, if it has to be something commercial. The hybrid version.
Now if we're talking about giving me a few million in R&D funds, I'd look at replacing the battery with a high-speed flywheel, and make the power unit a Stirling engine...
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09-08-2008, 01:16 AM
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09-08-2008, 01:28 AM
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09-08-2008, 01:35 AM
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Wannabe greenie
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I'd love a Civic VX or 94-up 3-cylinder Metro hatchback. Not a dream car by any means, but every little bit helps.
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09-08-2008, 02:39 AM
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jamesqf -
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An Aptera, of course, if it has to be something commercial. The hybrid version.
Now if we're talking about giving me a few million in R&D funds, I'd look at replacing the battery with a high-speed flywheel, and make the power unit a Stirling engine...
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I second the Aptera.
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09-08-2008, 02:44 AM
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dcb -
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Dude, everyone knows that won't be operational until the year 2154!!!! In the meantime we'll have to invent the time machine to bring it here,  .
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09-08-2008, 02:48 AM
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Steady as she goes
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Everyone has GREAT responses.... As for transporting I'm with dcb. A car, I very happy with my Metro. Now as said earlier "with a few mil".....more R&D on EV's/ Battery's and I'm not going to say the "H" word
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09-08-2008, 04:57 AM
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EcoModding Apprentice
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it has to be a production car available now for under 1M$ something people can actually buy if their rich aunt dies and they inherit the familly mansion. pure EV's allowed but must have 150mile range at 55mph.
i saw Audi A2 tdi 1.2L mentioned in another thread and googled it. 77mpg (US) may be capable of doing 100mpg (imperial) if hipermiled.
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09-08-2008, 05:24 AM
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EcoModding Lurker
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Location: Australia
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An electric Ariel Atom X1 for fun and an Aptera for everyday use.
Atom X1 performance figues:
0-50 km/h: 1.35 sec
0-100 km/h: 3.07 sec in 35m
0-160 km/h: 6.87 sec
0-160-0 km/h: 11.2 sec
Lateral g: 1.3
Braking g: 1.2
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09-08-2008, 08:15 AM
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I like the Loremo, if it ever turns out to be anything but vaporware. I'm not holding my breath, though.
A diesel or electric Ariel Atom or Caterham Se7en would be amazing as well. Both are more go-kart than car, and the torque potential from those power sources would turn them into tire-shredding, efficient fun.
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09-08-2008, 09:51 AM
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35hp @ 5280ft
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That solar powered car on the SCI-FI channel's "Eureka". The only problem is that it doesn't run at night (no batteries?).
I would love to put a 1.0L diesel into my Metro. Maybe a small diesel from the early 80's.
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09-08-2008, 11:01 AM
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For me it's the A2 3L hands down. Not only for the mileage figures, but it's a 4 doors and have quite a lot of interior space too and a lovely low Cd.
It is also all aluminum, which doesn't rust, and that's a huge advantage here in the great white north.
Things can change till then, but as soon as the 1999 model turns 15 years, I'm importing one to Canada. 3L models are very rare, but the 1.4 liters are pretty common and still get very decent mileage.
The car is rated a 78 MPG US with the small 1.2 and will make 100 MPG US for sure if hypermiled. I just pulled an 80 MPG out of my 1.9 TDI so 100 could be attainable easily with the A2.
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09-08-2008, 11:29 AM
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EcoModding Lurker
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Tesla, no question.
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09-08-2008, 07:39 PM
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Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jan 2008
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A roadable HONDA Dream-II Solar car with 12-hp engine.
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09-09-2008, 04:42 AM
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Modified Driver
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I think I'd go for VW's one liter car.
I would be happy with the following. VW's One Liter Car, The Aptera, A Pulse (there's something similar to this with retractable outrigger wheels, that's what I really want), or a Mazda Miata. No, the Miata isn't really an economy car, but I had one once and I just love the hell out of those little things.
I suppose I wouldn't mind a Smart either.
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