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Old 11-18-2024, 03:15 PM   #111 (permalink)
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The one time I took it to Bonneville, I had to ford streams of brine. I pressure washed it in downtown Wendover each night, but the steering box froze up afterward. It was fixed once, but it's really stiff again.

Maybe it can be reconditioned, it hasn't been diagnosed -- maybe it's a frozen ball joint? I'm budgeting for worst case.

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Old 11-18-2024, 07:03 PM   #112 (permalink)
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1) 'Scientific' testing of a 'smoky' engine would be oxymoronic.
When the wheel was invented no one did any 'Energy required to move a load of x kg y km before/after tests.
Why; because it was so much of an improvement that it was obvious to all.

I tested on a seized engine that had been 'quick fixed' by hammering the pistons out, honing the sleeves and slapping the whole mess back together.

Before the BA the car could do 80 km/h and you could not see out the rear-view mirror for smoke.
After; speed increased to ~140 km/h (rev limited) and you had to tailgate the car (driven hard) and look closely to see any smoke.

The car continued in this state for years and was eventually stolen in Cape Town.

Perhaps you have some insight into some other miraculous reason this happened as I was driving the car?

There are similar accounts by others here:
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...ngine-oil.html


What I find... 'interesting' is your seeming opposition to people trying this in a car whose engine is about to be rebuilt anyway.
What's that about..?

What do you have to loose from that happening?
vs
What you, and everyone, has to gain if, by some miracle of science, it does work??
I really don't get it.
Anyone..??
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In January I'm going to get the Superbeetle steering gearbox replaced.
The steering box may be a good candidate for testing BA freebeard.
The layer formed on the metal would take a bit of the play out of the bearings and worm gear.

I'd just make a paste with about the same consistency as the grease; mix the 2 well and give it a long time to do its thing.

If you wanted to speed up the process you'd want to heat the box to around boiling point while turning it constantly.
That could be done somehow I suppose, with boiling water heating oil, heating the box maybe.
Doesn't seem worth the trouble..

You come across a someone who swings his own spanners and has a compression tester and timing light etc.
I was surprised to find you take the car to others for this type of thing..?
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I was surprised to find you take the car to others for this type of thing..?
Same mechanic since the mid-90s (four locations). He has a two-post lift.
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Old 11-19-2024, 09:21 AM   #115 (permalink)
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1) 'coefficient of friction' isn't applicable in automotive lubrication.
2) 'slippery' is not a 'metric' used in tribology.
3) You poured your mixture into a 'pre-warmed engine, but a 'Cold' car.
4) You took it 'easy' ( 'easy' is not a quantifiable value which might inform the reader ).
5) Oil 'thickness' wouldn't vary in an automotive engine with 'acceptable clearances', if given its OEM-specified SAE/API motor oil. And even if the rings were shot, I'm not certain that the oil film on the cylinder walls or camshaft lobes would be appreciatively different.
6) 'About 10-km later' ( the car requires 36-km, at 88-km/h constant speed before it will attain thermal equilibrium, at which point 'testing' would be allowed to begin.
7) As I told you elsewhere, the car's fuel economy will 'improve' by 20%, without ever doing a thing to it!
8) You drove the car to 'top speed' while it was still cold, and 'exceeded' the original top speed, which would have been measured fully, thermally equilibrated; a remarkable claim, requiring equally remarkable evidence.
I did what I did and explained what I did and observed as I explained it.
Done.

If I were being paid to promote BA I might take the time to play 'court case - court case'.
But I'm done with all that.

To me it seems like nothing more than an attempt to get me to say something bannable and/or that can be nit picked at, wasting my time and causing confusion and/or information overload in anyone reading all this.

Time better spent finding a filter that blocks and hides all posts made by you.
A modification of this looks promising:
https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigi..._a_particular/
I suggest you do the same.

I will however take the time to contact Dr Ali Erdemir, and other researchers, making him/them aware of this thread and quote some of the content.
I have 2 Email addresses for him so far and am in the process of writing the Email.

With any luck you might have the honour of arguing all the little details in all the correct scientific terms, with people as qualified, or more so, than your esteemed self.
Possibly even in court.
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Not real piston rings but whats interesting here is you can see the blowby in the circumferential movement in the oil between each ring.
Faster between the top and middle ring than between the middle and lower ring.


So I wen and looked for research.

Consequence of Blowby Flow and Idling Time on Oil Consumption and Particulate Emissions in Gasoline Engine

1.2l 3cyl 4-stroke Blowby flow measurement for the engine at full load.

rpm l.min−1
1000 31
1500 52
2000 51
2500 52
3000 51
3500 49
4000 49
4500 49
5000 51
5500 49
6000 47
https://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/15/22/8772

The paper shows it's important to have the ring gaps 180 degrees from each other too.
How long and if they will stay that way I don't know.

Assuming a 0.5 micron thick layer on metal surfaces, you lose 2 microns (0.002 mm) of space between piston and sleeve,
And 0.007mm off the ring gap of the 75mm bore of the engine used above.
I don't think that would make much difference to blowby, but don't know enough on the subject to judge..?
Interesting non the less.


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