03-19-2014, 03:44 PM
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Yes, generally with down-sized ICEs, which is why they still get better mileage on the highway than equivalent non-hybrids, all else being equal.
Though I don't know if the same is true with this particular truck (the downsized engine part).
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03-19-2014, 05:00 PM
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Some good options mentioned already. I would do an aerocap. You could make it with struts on each corner so during normal operation it has the boat tail effect, but if you need to haul you can raise it to a normal camper shell height.
I would also look at a belly pan. I think for trucks,especially if you haul, belly pans are better than air dams (I'm not advocating against air dams - do both. ). Depending on how the underside looks, you might be able to slope the pan upwards toward the back for that tapered effect. You can also transfer that into a rear diffuser.
This is just a half joke, take it with a grain of salt. You could put a turbo, so in v4 mode it will have more power and stay out of v8 mode. Don't know if it would use less gas than v8 n/a mode, but it's something you might want to look into. Don't take anybody's advice here on the forum regarding this though (including me), go to a tune shop so it's done right, if at all.
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03-19-2014, 05:27 PM
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Which four do you put the turbo on? LOL! If it is a 6.0 it probably had excess power. Our new 2013 Tundra with a 5.7 pulls some pretty steep hills without downshifting, I was supprised.
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03-25-2014, 10:46 PM
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I also considered kinda odd that GM went with the V8 instead of a V6 in the hybrid layout. Well, the electric motor would be supposed to overcome the lower power either in highway or higher load conditions...
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This is just a half joke, take it with a grain of salt. You could put a turbo, so in v4 mode it will have more power and stay out of v8 mode. Don't know if it would use less gas than v8 n/a mode, but it's something you might want to look into.
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Turbocharging an engine with Atkinson-effect cams, like it's usual in hybrids, is harder due to some backpressure at the intake manifold, but a supercharger may be useful. Until mid-50s it was not unusual to use superchargers in industrial and marine engines which got a longer intake valve timing, as a measure to overcome the lower dynamic compression issue.
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03-26-2014, 12:32 AM
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What mileage are you getting? I am in the market for a light truck and looking at the Dodge diesel and maybe the ford f150 next year with the 2.7 ecoboost
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03-26-2014, 02:42 AM
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The GM 5.3 is a great engine from what my friends have said, so was the 4.3 V-6 with a turbo was the in the quickest car built in north America at one time. Why GM did not continue the turbo, especially since they had the MOST experience with it, from the Sixties, may mean something. Our Tundra, with a 5.7 NA, is ALL we could have asked for, and it's Toyota Quality, which used to hurt me to say, and built in San Antonio Texas, but Obama did not bail it out....sorry! Id buy a KEI truck if the Feds would really let me.
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03-26-2014, 05:08 PM
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I have a 2011 GMC Sierra crew cab with a 4.8 Litre and I get about 14 - 15 mpg city and 18 - 19 Hwy...if I'm lucky. I have been researching about belly pans, dams and grill covers. Anyone have any suggestions or know how this would be any benefit?
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03-27-2014, 02:11 AM
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The GM 5.3 is a great engine from what my friends have said, so was the 4.3 V-6 with a turbo was the in the quickest car built in north America at one time. Why GM did not continue the turbo, especially since they had the MOST experience with it, from the Sixties, may mean something.
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It's really kinda odd that GM didn't try so much to make the turbocharging more mainstream when it had a chance. Nowadays with more advanced engine management systems, it's easier to overcome the turbo-lag, so even Mercedes-Benz is getting rid of the Kompressor in favor of the turbo...
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Kei trucks are nice too, and in spite of their tiny size they're pretty capable. Well, their size make them a nice base for a trail rig because they have a great maneuverability even in tight spaces...
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If you think about it, the engine downsizing occurs any time the DoD/AFM is active and the engine is operating on 4 cylinders i.e. as a 3.0l. The extra engine displacement available when operating on all 8 is in lieu of electric motor assist or supercharging.
I'm pretty sure, without reviewing the details of this system, that it is a mild hybrid, with the fuel saving (from the hybrid part) occurring with engine stop/start and KE recovery. The electric motor/generator doesn't contribute to moving the vehicle, just starting the engine and using recovered KE to run the engine accessories - such as the power steering pump - and power electrical loads with the engine off.
A USP was the ability to use the vehicle, idling, as an electrical generator in remote locations. There will be 110V power outlets in the cab and truck bed.
Aren't they pretty rare vehicles? I have recall of there only being a few thousand sold. If so, it would be nice to see a few preserved as an interesting part of auto history.
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03-27-2014, 06:01 PM
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I'm pretty sure, without reviewing the details of this system, that it is a mild hybrid, with the fuel saving (from the hybrid part) occurring with engine stop/start and KE recovery. The electric motor/generator doesn't contribute to moving the vehicle, just starting the engine and using recovered KE to run the engine accessories - such as the power steering pump - and power electrical loads with the engine off.
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The earliest Silverado Hybrid, from the GMT800 generation, was a mild-hybrid, but this one is a GMT900 and a full-hybrid. Almost a Prius on steroids
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