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Old 01-11-2025, 10:55 AM   #1731 (permalink)
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If I understand correctly, tin was somewhat cheap and plentiful in Great Britain during the Great Empire period. Common, Really soft and easy to work unlike steel. Tin foil WAS a thing before 1100 dead soft aluminum foil which was relatively expensive before hydro electric.
Somewhere I read that Napoleon had a priceless tea set made from aluminum because it cost more than platinum back then

Suspect Wikipedia did their usual half effort on tin whistle.

I also believe the first power generator that WASN'T edison tried to match his voltages and got sued. 110 would power all the stuff but is off spec enough to not violate the patent. Westinghouse was a Pita to Edison but ended up doing all things electrical generation after Edison lost interest

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Old 01-11-2025, 04:11 PM   #1732 (permalink)
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' tin '

Tin, bauxite, natural rubber ( Michelin ), and petroleum were mentioned by President Eisenhower as of interest to the French and USA in 'Indochina / Vietnam'.
While I was dodging rockets at DaNang, EXXON was prospecting off the coast in the South China Sea, something China is VERY interested in currently.
( If you watch the deleted scenes from 'Apocalypse Now', you'll meet the Michelin rubber plantation family living near the Mekong River ) occupied by the Japanese during WW-II.
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Tin was a precipitating factor in the entire Bronze Age.
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Somewhere I read that Napoleon had a priceless tea set made from aluminum because it cost more than platinum back then
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France's Emperor Napoleon III was an early proponent of aluminum. He hoped the lightweight metal could be used to produce weapons and armor, giving his soldiers an edge in battle. The emperor funded the work of Henri Sainte-Claire Deville, who found a chemical method for obtaining pure aluminum, but it was still a slow process. An often repeated story goes that Napoleon III, frustrated with progress on aluminum, had much of France's stock melted down and turned into cutlery. He and his honored guests used aluminum utensils, while everyone else at the imperial dinner table made do with gold.
Aluminum's Strange Journey From Precious Metal To Beer Can
It is an interesting read, but I still need to write the progress reports due last night... and all of the notes since maybe the last reports...
I only have one class this quarter, which just started, but my family isn't about to stop being crazy.
I spent the other night in urgent care with Mom.
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Fuller always went on about alloys and their unpredictable qualities.

theconstructor.org: What is Transparent Aluminum?

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ALON is produced by combining aluminum, oxygen, and nitrogen. The manufacturing process involves pressurizing aluminum oxynitride powder to 15,000 pounds per inch in rubber molds submerged in hydraulic fluid. The obtained material, which is molded and opaque, is heated to 2000oC and kept at this temperature for two days. Once cooled, ALON emerges transparent, which is then ground and polished for extra clarity and strength.
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CWSA Episode 2723 30:20
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30:22 Iowa State University talking about how their Glacier experts have found a
30:28 critical flaw in the sea level predictions sea level rising because of climate
30:33 change what they found was that the way uh cold ice acts is different than warm
30:40 ice so I learned today that there can be warm ice and cold ice warm ice would be
30:47 ice that's already slightly melting like it's just barely ice and then cold ice
30:53 would be something that's so cold it's you know it's a solid what they found was that if you to predict ice like it's
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31:06 experimenting uh they studied for 10 years because of various hiccups and
31:12 they got to the point where wow this is really this should change your sea level predictions
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When the main theory is incorrect, no matter how you fudge the periphery, the answer will still be incorrect, although slightly more adhering to the observed
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' temperate ice '

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs...ts/?intent=121I'm not sure that the Arctic, Greenland, Mountain glaciers, and Antarctica got the memo.
'Meltwater' coming off the glaciers and into the ocean wasn't mentioned in the warm ice / cold ice report.
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'Meltwater' coming off the glaciers and into the ocean wasn't mentioned in the warm ice / cold ice report.
It's no longer ice. I think the point is that latent heat plus specific heat* is greater than latent heat alone.

*en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_specific_heat_capacities

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