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Old 04-23-2011, 01:09 PM   #81 (permalink)
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1st fact And it is a FACT. If your system works as claimed, than you would be getting a lot more energy out of it than you put into it. If it didn't work, you'd be getting worse miles per gallon. And you'd never admit that. So I think you and everyone else on the planet would have to agree...in order for your system to work, it Has to Create more Energy than it Uses.

You are breaking down water into Hydrogen and Oxygen, burning it in and engine which creates water again. This you cannot deny. Hydrogen goes In, Water Out. So, you have a car that uses energy (Alternator, Electric Current) to create Hydrogen from Water and then the car Burns the Hydrogen back into Water.....Water In, Water Out. Since there isn't anything else being added to the system to create energy, what you are talking about is a system that creates more energy than it uses by separating water, than making water.

That is the very definition of a perpetual motion device. You'll have to forgive everyone for not buying into the idea you have created something which is impossible to do. You might as well claim that you have figured out a way to train a fish to pilot an airplane and then you post a photoshopped picture of a gold fish sitting in the cockpit with little headphones on. That is how ridiculous your claim is to those of us here who can actually think for ourselves.

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Old 04-23-2011, 01:17 PM   #82 (permalink)
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It just dawned on me that you're posting here to get some linked website search engine optimized on a Google search. You generate buzz here, that helps your other stupid website be higher up in the search. Who the hell would add the "Eco friendly" and "Ecotec" tags? I'm reporting this now.
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Old 04-23-2011, 01:30 PM   #83 (permalink)
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im busy doing a few SUV's and ill see if its ok with the owners to post them on youtube.
Ah. Things are becoming more clear.

You really should read this thread now, if you haven't already:
So you want to talk up your new fuel-saving product on EcoModder...
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Old 04-23-2011, 02:39 PM   #84 (permalink)
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It just dawned on me that you're posting here to get some linked website search engine optimized on a Google search. You generate buzz here, that helps your other stupid website be higher up in the search. Who the hell would add the "Eco friendly" and "Ecotec" tags? I'm reporting this now.
Or you could just have fun with the tags, like I did.
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Old 04-23-2011, 03:31 PM   #85 (permalink)
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The burden of proof is on you. You should have posted the real-world results (proof) at the same time you made the claim.

You cannot expect credibility if you do not disclose your methodology and results.
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Whatever, dude.

4 years, and you can't even afford a $60 scan tool? Or are you having trouble filming the team of unicorns pulling your car forward?
i was looking at one for 160 i didn't know they were this cheap $60 thanks for the link
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It just dawned on me that you're posting here to get some linked website search engine optimized on a Google search. You generate buzz here, that helps your other stupid website be higher up in the search. Who the hell would add the "Eco friendly" and "Ecotec" tags? I'm reporting this now.
my car have in a Ecotec engine and the car is Eco friendly, so why you mad again?
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Old 04-25-2011, 06:48 AM   #89 (permalink)
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i was looking at one for 160 i didn't know they were this cheap $60 thanks for the link
Again, that tool (like the ScanGauge) infers fuel consumption from air consumption at stochiometric levels via OBD-II parameters. You may be wasting your time using it for the purposes of gathering accurate data since you are not running at stoich.

The MPGuino, once calibrated, will measure fuel use more accurately (and is even less expensive than the UltraGauge.)
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Old 04-25-2011, 11:57 AM   #90 (permalink)
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geez so much of them. ill look into the 2 but for sure im getting one

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