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Old 07-07-2014, 11:09 AM   #21 (permalink)
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It encouraged and further subsidized guzzling, arguably for those that needed it the least. Quite the odd double standard- brushing off subsidy for the wealthy then bemoaning subsidy for the non-wealthy.
I'd like to see ALL subsidies ended. But considering the nature of political "pork" it isn't going to happen.

Speaking of food and where it comes from, photosynthesis is applicable to plant life, but there are other sources of food. Pigs, cows and chickens don't grow on trees.

 
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Old 07-07-2014, 11:29 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Yes, but pigs cows and chickens get energy from those plants, which in turn comes from the sun
 
Old 07-07-2014, 12:42 PM   #23 (permalink)
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But where does the sun get it's energy from? It's very clear to me this was all designed this way so food comes from God.
 
Old 07-07-2014, 12:49 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Around here most farmers (who are nearly all Conservative) have at least one truck that has a diesel. Most are asked to pull their rated GRVW much of the time. Almost never see them in their big trucks unless they have a job to do.
Have to say that farmers in Missouri (?) must be different than the farmers/ranchers hereabouts. See them driving their big diesel pickups all the time, hardly ever with a load or pulling a trailer.

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Most have no use for something that isn't needed, (example smoke) a hallmark of being conservative.
Well, there are conservatives and conservatives, you know. (Reagan's 'big tent' thing...) There are some types of 'conservative' who thrive on making unnecessary smoke & noise, just as there are some 'liberals' who love their big, noisy, chrome-covered guzzlers. In fact, that love seems almost independent of politics.
 
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Granted the sun helps, but I give "god" credit. I had a dream once I was in his lab where he was working on plants. Plants use to grow fast, but they scared the hell out of humans, so god purposely slowed them down.
 
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So your profile says you are from earth, is that correct?
Be conservative, think conservatively. It is essential if you are to leave a small impact.

Most conservatives think "just leave me alone do your own thing". Most nonconservatives think that they know best. and want to not allow others to think or act differently than their proscribed definition of right. I am an old hippy and must allow you to believe what you want. Can you say that about me?

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Have to say that farmers in Missouri (?) must be different than the farmers/ranchers hereabouts. See them driving their big diesel pickups all the time, hardly ever with a load or pulling a trailer.



Well, there are conservatives and conservatives, you know. (Reagan's 'big tent' thing...) There are some types of 'conservative' who thrive on making unnecessary smoke & noise, just as there are some 'liberals' who love their big, noisy, chrome-covered guzzlers. In fact, that love seems almost independent of politics.
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Yes food probably comes from God. Nobody can prove that it doesn't. Food certainly pre-dates human intervention.
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Have to say that farmers in Missouri (?) must be different than the farmers/ranchers hereabouts. See them driving their big diesel pickups all the time, hardly ever with a load or pulling a trailer.
Maybe the farmers in Missouri are actually doing farming with their trucks, while the farmer/ranchers in your vicinity are driving around enjoying their empty trucks that they bought due to tax breaks.

BTW, a tax break is an obvious incentive meant to influence consumer spending by small business interests, but it's not the same as a subsidy - which is an actual handout.
 
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