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Old 01-23-2013, 07:24 AM   #11 (permalink)
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We'll see how it will go. TDI are more FE engines for sure than my old fashioned TDS but I won't give up! Das Autos are going for FE War
Mine is a TD (no I) its an indirect injection turbo with no intercooler as standard- pretty much the same spec as your engine, although I think you may be 10-15bhp more than me (my AAZ is 75bhp/110Ft/lb torque)

Based on your fuel log, I think I'll aim for 65 imperial MPG
to start with, then see if I can catch you up!

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Old 01-24-2013, 09:07 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Mine is a TD (no I) its an indirect injection turbo with no intercooler as standard- pretty much the same spec as your engine, although I think you may be 10-15bhp more than me (my AAZ is 75bhp/110Ft/lb torque)

Based on your fuel log, I think I'll aim for 65 imperial MPG
to start with, then see if I can catch you up!
I'm sure 65 MPG Imp won't be any problem if you'll drive carefully. Tell me do you have fully mechanical FI pump or "fly by wire" like my TDS? If you have mechanical pump it will be tricky to install any FE monitoring device if you have FBW with potentiometer gas pedal you should be able to connect MPGuino without any issue, like I did in Berta. And that's amazing how much you can save if you have real time FE monitoring.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm sure 65 MPG Imp won't be any problem if you'll drive carefully. Tell me do you have fully mechanical FI pump or "fly by wire" like my TDS? If you have mechanical pump it will be tricky to install any FE monitoring device if you have FBW with potentiometer gas pedal you should be able to connect MPGuino without any issue, like I did in Berta. And that's amazing how much you can save if you have real time FE monitoring.
It appears the AAZ lump in my car has a mechanical pump- And I, for one, am glad of it

should be relatively simple to increase output and torque between fuel pump and turbo (both manually adjustable)- meaning I can use smaller throttle settings for the same torque.

the only downside is that the mechanical pump means no DFCO- if the engine is spinning, the pump is pumping..

However, I have a cunning plan- I can set the idle point lower than the current 980rpm, and just knock the car into neutral approaching roundabouts/junctions/lights etc

also, I'm chasing you down.. 338.7 miles so far, on less than 1/2 of a 55L tank

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Old 01-25-2013, 09:32 AM   #14 (permalink)
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It appears the AAZ lump in my car has a mechanical pump- And I, for one, am glad of it

should be relatively simple to increase output and torque between fuel pump and turbo (both manually adjustable)- meaning I can use smaller throttle settings for the same torque.

the only downside is that the mechanical pump means no DFCO- if the engine is spinning, the pump is pumping..

However, I have a cunning plan- I can set the idle point lower than the current 980rpm, and just knock the car into neutral approaching roundabouts/junctions/lights etc

also, I'm chasing you down.. 338.7 miles so far, on less than 1/2 of a 55L tank


Nice, lucky you. Can't wait to see some more fillups! Anyway Berta is now on #7 because of the weather (-8C and lots of snow), and because of me (I was constantly in a hurry ) But after filling up and 110km of driving MPGuino is showing nice 25.6 km/l So there's a hope for me to jump up the list again
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Nice, lucky you. Can't wait to see some more fillups! Anyway Berta is now on #7 because of the weather (-8C and lots of snow), and because of me (I was constantly in a hurry ) But after filling up and 110km of driving MPGuino is showing nice 25.6 km/l So there's a hope for me to jump up the list again
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First tank is in, and I'M showing 24TH

55.71 imp MPG is fairly good for a first tank, and I'm warming to the car- very different to drive compared to my e36..


Next goal is 57mpg with no mods
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:12 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Next goal is 57mpg with no mods

I'll keep my fingers crossed for that! Good luck!
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:15 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I'll keep my fingers crossed for that! Good luck!
Thanks very much! I'm hoping that I'll get more used to driving the diesel this tank- its completely different the the BMW..

And I'm managing to remember that the mechanical fuel pump means no DFCO
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No DFCO but still you can P&G Just be careful with bump starts, because of cam belt.
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No DFCO but still you can P&G Just be careful with bump starts, because of cam belt.

If I P&G I'll be doing it with the engine on, as my commute really doesnt suit engine off (occasional multiple brake applications, folk folling too close/cutting lanes etc..)

but I have tried it, and she seems hapy to E(on) P&G!

when will your next tank be done so we can see if you move up?
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Don't know when... I'm hoping soon I'll be able to take Berta on the road trip

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