"100% of people who do not save money do not have any!"--Dave Ramsey

[redpoint5]

I just discovered the Kia Carnival. They call it not a minivan, but it can be configured for 11 seats.

[freebeard]

An automobile capable of off-highway operation, as indicated by the fact that it:

(1)

(i) Has 4-wheel drive; or

(ii) Is rated at more than 6,000 pounds gross vehicle weight;

Whatever are they smoking? Don't want.

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Trophy_truck
Trophy truck - Wikipedia
Total wet weight is around 3,500 pounds (1,600 kg) minimum, with the mass necessary to absorb the rougher terrain in desert racing. Transmission is a choice of either three-speed automatic or six-speed sequential gearbox.

[Xist]

My Subaru was classified as a truck.

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by JSH

Exactly right. The marketing people can spin whatever tale they want - if the customer will buy it.

However, the Outback actually meets the legal requirements of a SUV and is classified as one.

Legal and personal opinion/belief/idea can be very different from each other.

Here's what I'd call an SUV:



And this is what I'd call a crossover:

[Xist]

I always consider crossovers to be tall wagons or hatchbacks.

The writer of the list said the Venue wasn't an SUV, it didn't have AWD or 4WD, but then again, we had a thread about four-door coupes and two-door sedans.

Plus Apple won a lawsuit claiming a reasonable person would not have believed their advertising.

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by Xist

I always consider crossovers to be tall wagons or hatchbacks.

The writer of the list said the Venue wasn't an SUV, it didn't have AWD or 4WD, but then again, we had a thread about four-door coupes and two-door sedans.

Plus Apple won a lawsuit claiming a reasonable person would not have believed their advertising.

My take on SUV/truck is if I can't reach the center of the roof standing next to it, it's an SUV/truck (maybe a crossover). But if I can touch the center of the roof standing next to it, to me it's a wagon/hatchback.

Same with the new crossover/SUV "coupés" and sedans like the Tesla Model Why.

Of course my definition is based on whether I'd need a step ladder or not to change an HF amateur radio antenna placed on the center of the roof.

[Xist]

How about whether the average driver needs a long-handled squeegee to clean the windshield?

I drove school buses and used a normal one just fine, but I am 6'2".

I knew a 4'9" bus driver.

I sure hope she didn't text and drive like she did in a car!

[freebeard]

Here's what I'd call an SUV:

And this is what I'd call a crossover:

What would you call this?

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by Xist

How about whether the average driver needs a long-handled squeegee to clean the windshield?

I drove school buses and used a normal one just fine, but I am 6'2".

I knew a 4'9" bus driver.

I sure hope she didn't text and drive like she did in a car!

What's needed for reaching the luggage roof rack?
What's needed for washing the top of the vehicle?
What's needed for cleaning the snow off the roof?

I also drove school bus and am 6' 1". I don't remember using anything other than what the gas stations had for cleaning windshields. But I never cleaned the roof off of snow or anything else.

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by freebeard

What would you call this?

A reason to wish upon a star.