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Old 07-07-2020, 11:25 AM   #21 (permalink)
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If you mean biodiesel or FAME then no, impossible to get hold of the chemicals needed for it here

If you mean blending the yes, have probably blended for more than 100 000km in total (62 000miles) over the last 12 years both with SVO and WVO

with only this car I have alrady blended for 10 051km, actually have a blend between kerosene(ULSD) 45% and unused canola oil 55% in the fueltank right now
Do such blends pollute less? Is it cheaper to run?

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Old 07-07-2020, 02:20 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Do such blends pollute less? Is it cheaper to run?
yes it does, burning biodegradable oil instead of fossil fuel is better, less soot and more power, atleast compared to the kerosene"diesel" we have here

yes, saves me quite a bit of money since I only buy canola oil when it is on promo and cheaper than the gas station crap

hopefully my friend will start filtering his WVO so i can start with that(even cheaper) before it gets cold again

the downside is that winter is no good with blending, oil turns into butter instead of liquid.... and we all know that fuel lines in traditional cars can only transport liquids right?

another downside is how BLENDING ONLYS WORKS ON OLD CARS like mine with mechanical fuel injection and preferably prechambers, common rail and all these electrical injection systems cannot handle the increase in viscosity, so the limit is said to be cars built around year 1995 and earlier or thereabout, it depends on the car. Some might even be earlier (or later)
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Old 07-07-2020, 11:39 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I admire these cars and their reputation for reliability. Wouldn't mind owning one someday.

The thread reminds me of pgfpro, who was running an Eagle Talon on paint thinner. Cool stuff.

I think my car is capable of burning ethanol but I guess there's really no cost/efficiency savings to that.
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I Like these cars A LOT. The W123 and W124 in particular. I drove a manual 250D once, it gives a very robust feeling. And that sound, wow. The quality of those cars are from a very high level, so congratulations for owing a car like that. Hopefully I can say the same someday!

Like the Toyota Hilux that Top Gear couldn't wreck, these
Merc's are indestructible too. I remember Fifth Gear tried it with a 250D. Only downside is that they rust easily.
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the downside to this is these engines are less fuel efficient and more complicated/expensive to build
Old-school indirect-injection Diesel engines actually get a better mileage with vegetable oils than with either regular Diesel fuel or biodiesel.
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Old-school indirect-injection Diesel engines actually get a better mileage with vegetable oils than with either regular Diesel fuel or biodiesel.
It depends, there used to be many vegoilforums, but now many are gone.... most people there reported same fuel milage or slightly worse with vegoil compared to diesel but this was about 10 years ago (damn i am getting old)

All i know for sure is that the kerosene "diesel" in gas stations here is a lot worse than vegoil, hvo and real diesel from rest of europe/the world
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I admire these cars and their reputation for reliability. Wouldn't mind owning one someday.

The thread reminds me of pgfpro, who was running an Eagle Talon on paint thinner. Cool stuff.

I think my car is capable of burning ethanol but I guess there's really no cost/efficiency savings to that.
Have you tried blending? Most gas cars can handle 20-40% E85 and usually there is no ill effect in fuel consumption until about 35% E85 blend



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I Like these cars A LOT. The W123 and W124 in particular. I drove a manual 250D once, it gives a very robust feeling. And that sound, wow. The quality of those cars are from a very high level, so congratulations for owing a car like that. Hopefully I can say the same someday!

Like the Toyota Hilux that Top Gear couldn't wreck, these
Merc's are indestructible too. I remember Fifth Gear tried it with a 250D. Only downside is that they rust easily.
I like them too, that is why i have two perfect when driving long distances, quiet and comfortable, my former cars (volvo 240) are also legendary but a lot louder, a bit too loud for comfort when driving long distances like I do now

Like with all old cars rust is the biggest enemy

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there used to be many vegoilforums, but now many are gone....
With emissions compliance being developed only around regular Diesel fuel and occasionally some low biodiesel blends, such outcome is quite predictable, not to mention the unfair regulations preventing older cars to access central areas of some cities due to their emissions certification even if they can be easier to adapt to use a less-polluting fuel.


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most people there reported same fuel milage or slightly worse with vegoil compared to diesel but this was about 10 years ago
With direct injection it usually increases fuel consumption while using veg oil, while the opposite happens for IDI.

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