Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 05-21-2008, 12:20 AM   #201 (permalink)
Bicycle Junky
 
NoCO2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 464

Putsaround - '96 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 32.74 mpg (US)

The Commuter - '07 Trek 1000SL
90 day: 617.28 mpg (US)

Zippy - '91 Honda Civic DX
90 day: 33.29 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Wow AndrewJ, I haven't been keeping with your progress in the last few weeks but man, I'm impressed with the work you have completed thus far! I really can't wait until I can afford to get a scangauge so I can actually start doing more then just playing the driving style game with myself to get my gas millage measurements. I am trying to hold off any kind of aero mods until I can get some instrumentation to justify any gains to myself instead of just copying what everyone else has done and hoping for the best.

__________________
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 05-21-2008, 12:48 AM   #202 (permalink)
Awesomeness personified
 
AndrewJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Columbia, MO
Posts: 642

Harold - '94 Honda Civic CX
90 day: 54.51 mpg (US)

Margot - '08 Surly Big Dummy
Thanks: 0
Thanked 28 Times in 18 Posts
Send a message via AIM to AndrewJ
You'll all have PLENTY of data to sift through once I can wrangle some time off to get my Opengauge built. I'm chipping away at it, but I don't have much spare time right now....

Anyway, I'm planning on doing 50mph highway tests of pretty much every mod I've got one at a time.
__________________
"I got 350 heads on a 305 engine. I get 10 miles to the gallon. I ain't got no good intentions." - The Drive By Truckers.

  Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2008, 09:03 PM   #203 (permalink)
Cd
Ultimate Fail
 
Cd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Austin,Texas
Posts: 3,585
Thanks: 2,872
Thanked 1,121 Times in 679 Posts
Andrew, I was wondering if you have checked the condition of the Coroplast that you have under the engine.
Everything that you have done so far has amazed me, for the fact that I thought something would either overheat, catch on fire , or just melt.
Do you actually have that stuff touching the exaust ??
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2008, 09:36 PM   #204 (permalink)
EcoModding Enthusiast
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Austin
Posts: 155

Silver Bullet - '03 Mazda Protege LX
90 day: 29.51 mpg (US)

Silver Bullet - '03 Mazda Protege LX
90 day: 37.06 mpg (US)

Blaze - '17 Ford Escape
Thanks: 23
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
subbin'
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2008, 10:52 PM   #205 (permalink)
Impatient Driver
 
chrislk1986's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: PNW
Posts: 21

98CivicHX - '98 Honda Civic HX
90 day: 40.02 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I need to get a 5th gen sedan with major rear end damage. It'd be interesting to try out kammaback or boat tail on a sedan.

Good work, you are an inspiration.
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2008, 08:13 PM   #206 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Far out, Man
Posts: 6

Ethan - '06 Honda Civic LX
90 day: 36.3 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
How difficult was it to wire the LED into your relay?
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2008, 11:30 PM   #207 (permalink)
Awesomeness personified
 
AndrewJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Columbia, MO
Posts: 642

Harold - '94 Honda Civic CX
90 day: 54.51 mpg (US)

Margot - '08 Surly Big Dummy
Thanks: 0
Thanked 28 Times in 18 Posts
Send a message via AIM to AndrewJ
Get into the under-hood fuse box (near the battery) and find the radiator-fan relay.

Pull it.

There should be 4 contacts, two are the for the coil (one is +12v, one is ground)
Two are for the fan (again one +12v, one ground)

Use a DMM to find out which wires are +12 and which are ground.

You can connect jumpers to the battery to find out which ones run the fan (I think it's the top pair, but memory was never my strong suit)

Oh, if your relay has a diagram on the side, you can just save yourself a lot of time and read which prong is which. Mine were diagram-less.

Slip the +12v wire for the LED under the +12v (fan) prong on the relay and plug the relay back in.

BTW, I'm using a LED that already has a resistor in-line with it, I got it at the 'shack so it's already set-up for +12v power. Don't do this to a regular LED without a resistor and expect the LED to live.
__________________
"I got 350 heads on a 305 engine. I get 10 miles to the gallon. I ain't got no good intentions." - The Drive By Truckers.

  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to AndrewJ For This Useful Post:
Cd (12-30-2010), j12piprius (04-11-2014)
Old 06-02-2008, 12:12 PM   #208 (permalink)
EcoModding Enthusiast
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Austin
Posts: 155

Silver Bullet - '03 Mazda Protege LX
90 day: 29.51 mpg (US)

Silver Bullet - '03 Mazda Protege LX
90 day: 37.06 mpg (US)

Blaze - '17 Ford Escape
Thanks: 23
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewJ View Post
Don't do this to a regular LED without a resistor and expect the LED to live.
or remain intact for that matter
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2008, 09:27 PM   #209 (permalink)
Awesomeness personified
 
AndrewJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Columbia, MO
Posts: 642

Harold - '94 Honda Civic CX
90 day: 54.51 mpg (US)

Margot - '08 Surly Big Dummy
Thanks: 0
Thanked 28 Times in 18 Posts
Send a message via AIM to AndrewJ
Sweet, sweet MPGuino.

So, I gots my MPGuino all hooked up and working. It's not quite calibrated yet, but that's all part of the testing I guess.








Anyhow, some random observations since having some instant feedback.

Average (uncalibrated) highway MPG: 64-68mpg
Average (uncalibrated) city MPG: 74-106mpg

I was completely unaware that my city MPG was that much better than highway....

Oh, and my initial fooling around indicates that in certian situations with average speeds above 50mph, Pulse & Glide seems to be effective. At least it was on my trip TO work when there wasn't much wind.


Edit:

For record-keeping sake, I just updated my 'guino's software to:
VSS pulse per mile - 8048
MicroSeconds per Gallon - 402374609

VSS was underreporting by 20% or so, I scaled fuel back the same amount.
__________________
"I got 350 heads on a 305 engine. I get 10 miles to the gallon. I ain't got no good intentions." - The Drive By Truckers.


Last edited by AndrewJ; 06-04-2008 at 10:50 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2008, 09:57 PM   #210 (permalink)
Future EV Owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sussex Wisconsin
Posts: 674

Wannabe - '05 Honda Civic LX
90 day: 40.53 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Percentage wise, my city is that much better than my highway. Seems strange.

__________________
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com