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Old 02-03-2012, 05:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Hang in here 2010civic, I have built the generators and was making like 1 lpm at 15 amps.... The problem is leaning the engine and actually producing enough hydrogen to improve combustion.... And that's all there is to do is improve combustion of the current fuel you're injecting into the motor. I did have some fun making actual bottle rockets though haha 20 ft plus launches with the Hho generators.. Hang in here and don't get discouraged by someone being rude to you, just blow them out of the water with extreme mpg numbers!! Yehaww!!

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Old 02-03-2012, 06:08 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:48 PM   #14 (permalink)
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IMHO guys maybe a reply with a link or maybe no reply would be better than "having a go" at someone - a lot of people don't know about these "scams" otherwise they would have gone bust years ago. If they come back inviting investment or posting about how it has tripled their mileage - THEN have a go.
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IMHO guys maybe a reply with a link or maybe no reply would be better than "having a go" at someone - a lot of people don't know about these "scams" otherwise they would have gone bust years ago. If they come back inviting investment or posting about how it has tripled their mileage - THEN have a go.
I would agree under most circumstances. But it was clear to me the initial post contained no initial searching or active interest at all, and I want to help spark initiative.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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There are also a few instances in the past couple of years where someone shows up looking all Naive and have in fact been sellers and purveyors of these systems. So they act like they are trying to start a legit thread but are in fact trying to get people to buy their products. They also tend to put in a lot of links to the pages they write on so it improves their Google status making them higher on the search list. So, when it comes to HHO and hydrogen injection systems, this forum has a lot of information on it.

Bottom line from my perspective: It is a SCAM, there is no science to back it up. No legit test has ever been done that shows it to work. You simply canít reach down, and pull on your shoelaces picking yourself off the ground to start flying through the air. Physics just plain out and out does not allow it to even have a remote chance to ever work regardless of how carefully the system is designed and implemented. It is a system designed by con men for suckers. You'd have to be a small minded, idiotic dolt to honestly believe the garbage that is written about it that supports its use. I suppose if you have an LED light therapy wand to relieve pain, you have the plans for an anti-gravity device you can make at home but just havenít gotten around to building it yet, or you believe in the wondrous healing powers of ionizing water purifiers, then there is no helping you, youíre a bona-fide sucker and youíll get the respect you deserve.

Yet somehow, invariably people try to promote it here to what could be some of the brightest minds in the country like we're all stupid or something. This is why you'll get a ton of pushback regarding HHO.

There are many legit ways to improve your mileage, so don't give up just because you thought the HHO thing was a way to go. Look around, educate yourself. I suggest you not try to discuss the HHO thing because I assure you it is 110% pure unadulterated snake oil, and people here have very little tolerance for it.
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Old 02-05-2012, 11:21 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I would agree under most circumstances. But it was clear to me the initial post contained no initial searching or active interest at all, and I want to help spark initiative.
Unfortunately all it did was annoy the guy.
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Unfortunately all it did was annoy the guy.
since this thread has become a 'counsoling thread' here is my two cents.

1. If you have ever posted on ANY forum more than 5 times, you learn about searching. am I right?
2. when someone (who has been on other forums......not a pure virgin ) posts a specific 'proper name', I ask myself...'self, why didn't he try to search first?'
The answer is ......he's trying to generate hits!!!!
Had his quest been more....generic......mayby.
3. This poster has very thin skin.....why? Is he really a 'virgin'?. No. his faux indignation clearly implied he has some internet savy. He didn't even thank me for generating the link with 60+ hits just at ecomodder.
4. all of us have been new on some forum. And I know that I have been jumped. But I learn the mood of the forum and adjust. Maybe i'll quit the forum after a while....maybe I adjust.
5.as i have said repeatedly, this is a VERY good forum. A person could get buried in intense, factual, indepth, college level information. That is provided in laymans terms ( most of the time).
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:16 AM   #19 (permalink)
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McC - I agree with your comments. I just felt the initial response was a little (and its tricky to come up with an appropriate word here, so apologies) harsh.

We were all newbies at some point. Anyway, on with the unicorn pee...

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