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Old 02-27-2013, 11:41 PM   #201 (permalink)
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Worst case scenario- if you have most or even all of the Lithium Cells intact, you can part out the Miev, make back a lot of your money, order some fresh BMS, re-solder a connection or two....and upgrade the Electro-Metro to Lithium! Then sell the Lead batteries or use for other projects.

And if you don't even have enough lithium cells intact for the Metro-upgrade the Electric Cycle instead.

Naturally i'm hoping for a BEST case scenario, but it sounds like you've already found a lot of corrosion...

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Old 02-28-2013, 06:52 AM   #202 (permalink)
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There's a QDR code on the sticker on top ot this BMS. Mayby if you scan it with your phone it would lead you to some web site where you could find how much would it cost to order new ones.
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Old 03-02-2013, 08:41 PM   #203 (permalink)
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Ah! I was so disappointed when I found out that it wasn't salvageable! Convert it to run on a small diesel! Make it super - high mpg!
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:33 AM   #204 (permalink)
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Diesel?!?!?!?! I swear, I believe none of you guys have even driven a vehicle powered by such an engine. I had a diesel or die-sell as I like to say it mercedes 240d and a 85 vw golf diesel.

Its a horrible smell, lacks throttle response or acceleration, the fuel is half a dollar more than gas, thats assuming you can find a station that sells it unless you like being sandwiched between the big trucks at their stations waiting in line to fill up.

Considering how small the car is I think a hybusa or some small motorcycle, snow mobile engne would be a better fit.

For the hell of it, Id like to have something I had to grab the pull cord to start before I got in it to drive to just screw with the general public when I park at places.
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:08 AM   #205 (permalink)
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I think pull-start would be hilarious.

The engine in the ICE K-car version of this vehicle was a 660cc.

In the States, that's only a medium-size motorcycle engine.
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For the hell of it, Id like to have something I had to grab the pull cord to start before I got in it to drive to just screw with the general public when I park at places.
It is sooooo easy to screw with the public; I get stares by loading groceries into my Corvair's trunk.
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Diesel?!?!?!?! I swear, I believe none of you guys have even driven a vehicle powered by such an engine. I had a diesel or die-sell as I like to say it mercedes 240d and a 85 vw golf diesel.

Its a horrible smell, lacks throttle response or acceleration, the fuel is half a dollar more than gas, thats assuming you can find a station that sells it unless you like being sandwiched between the big trucks at their stations waiting in line to fill up.

Considering how small the car is I think a hybusa or some small motorcycle, snow mobile engne would be a better fit.

For the hell of it, Id like to have something I had to grab the pull cord to start before I got in it to drive to just screw with the general public when I park at places.
I swear, I believe you have not driven a diesel in the last 15 years
I'll take my 120hp, 270Nm diesel (common rail, turbo charged) any time over a spendthrift gas burner. My car uses 5,7 L/100km, where a comparable petrol engine uses 7,5 to 8 L/100km.
The diesel would use far less fuel than a hayabusa engine.

Ben, couldn't you get some bms and batteries to fit in the car's battery box?
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I swear, I believe you have not driven a diesel in the last 15 years
I'll take my 120hp, 270Nm diesel (common rail, turbo charged) any time over a spendthrift gas burner. My car uses 5,7 L/100km, where a comparable petrol engine uses 7,5 to 8 L/100km.
The diesel would use far less fuel than a hayabusa engine.
I know he has, and so have I; I even went out to buy a Seat 1.2 EgoNumbing diesel until I test drove it. So glad with my hybrid now

Diesels rock, stink and make a lot of noise. But hey, it's a man thing!
Sadly the Miev is, put mildly, not the manliest car on the planet.
Also it is specifically built for electric drive, so any replacement engine needs to be small in size and lightweight as to keep some kind of balance. Diesels are no match.
A Hayabusa engine would be spectacular, you might stretch the ratios so that first gear goes to 60 mph or you'd spin the wheels uncontrollably.

My feelings are that the best way to power the Miev is with the very thing it was designed for. If the cells are good, the BMS boards repaired or replaced, the wiring sorted out and all is cleaned up and working again, who would still want to change it then?
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It doesn't seem so hard to slap the engine out of a wrecked sportsbike into the i-MIEV body. But a small Diesel, to run either on biodiesel or pure vegetable oils, would also be a nice option

Too bad the availability of small Diesels back there is too focused on off-road boat-anchors
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