11-21-2019, 10:07 AM
|
#61 (permalink)
|
Administrator
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Germantown, WI
Posts: 11,203
Thanks: 2,501
Thanked 2,588 Times in 1,555 Posts
|
I received my output DC-DC buck converter. This thing is rated at 20A and I can see why. The heatsinks on it are quite beefy. The reviews say it doesn't get very warm. That will certainly be put to the test as the Mirage with headlights and heater blowing pull nearly 20A from the battery according to my ammeter in the car. This converter has constant voltage and constant current adjustments.
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Daox For This Useful Post:
|
Ecky (11-21-2019), UFO (11-21-2019) |
Today
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
11-21-2019, 11:33 AM
|
#62 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,300
Thanks: 315
Thanked 179 Times in 138 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daox
I received my output DC-DC buck converter. This thing is rated at 20A and I can see why. The heatsinks on it are quite beefy. The reviews say it doesn't get very warm. That will certainly be put to the test as the Mirage with headlights and heater blowing pull nearly 20A from the battery according to my ammeter in the car. This converter has constant voltage and constant current adjustments.
|
Have you checked the conversion efficiency? The heat sink will help, but perhaps it generates less heat due to an efficient design.
__________________
I'm not coasting, I'm shifting slowly.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to UFO For This Useful Post:
|
|
11-21-2019, 02:26 PM
|
#63 (permalink)
|
Administrator
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Germantown, WI
Posts: 11,203
Thanks: 2,501
Thanked 2,588 Times in 1,555 Posts
|
That is quite possible. I have not hooked it up yet to try it out. The listing says up to 95% measure at converting 24V to 12V at 20A. However, I am not too trusting of that info.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Daox For This Useful Post:
|
|
11-22-2019, 11:54 PM
|
#64 (permalink)
|
Administrator
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Germantown, WI
Posts: 11,203
Thanks: 2,501
Thanked 2,588 Times in 1,555 Posts
|
I was wrong!
I took a closer look at my power usage on the Mirage these past few days. It looks like the single 20A dc-dc output converter may not handle 100% of the load all the time, even at max output. The engine running uses about 6.5A. Turn the headlights on and it jumps to very near 20A (total draw). The fan on low pulls 2-3A and another 3 on full blast. So, I may have to look at a more powerful unit (which I've not been able to find yet) or running two in parallel which I'm not crazy about.
|
|
|
11-23-2019, 05:42 AM
|
#65 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Istanbul
Posts: 1,245
Thanks: 65
Thanked 225 Times in 186 Posts
|
Why not?
More surface area better heat dissipation.
|
|
|
11-23-2019, 11:23 AM
|
#66 (permalink)
|
Somewhat crazed
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: 1826 miles WSW of Normal
Posts: 4,431
Thanks: 541
Thanked 1,207 Times in 1,064 Posts
|
I'm pretty sure that 2 buck converters won't play well together particularly if they aren't isolated outputs. There is a need for impedance and capcitance that will be halved and may fall out of specifications.
__________________
casual notes from the underground:There are some "experts" out there that in reality don't have a clue as to what they are doing.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Piotrsko For This Useful Post:
|
|
11-23-2019, 11:21 PM
|
#67 (permalink)
|
Administrator
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Germantown, WI
Posts: 11,203
Thanks: 2,501
Thanked 2,588 Times in 1,555 Posts
|
I got the hardware for the packs. So, I printed another test. The previous plates were designed for a smaller threaded rod, but this 6-32 was actually a good amount cheaper than the 4-40 rod I had designed it for.
So, new plates were printed up. I assembled things and it went together quite well. Once the threaded rods are in place the assembly is very sturdy.
I am seeing that it'll be difficult to print such a large flat plate on the 3d printer. When you print these pieces, they're warm plastic. As the print continues the plastic cools off which makes it shrink. This shrinking ends up making the print potato chip and peel itself off the table. It'll be interesting to try to get this to print correctly. The test plates came out okay, but did start peeling up which distorted things a little.
|
|
|
11-24-2019, 04:34 AM
|
#68 (permalink)
|
Corporate imperialist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,268
Thanks: 273
Thanked 3,569 Times in 2,833 Posts
|
Why not run the blower power straight off the battery?
It won't be as strong but it should be enough.
There's also 7 cell lead acid race batteries.
That 7th cell keeps voltage under load close to what you get with a running alternator. But it needs a specific charger.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to oil pan 4 For This Useful Post:
|
|
11-24-2019, 12:46 PM
|
#69 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Istanbul
Posts: 1,245
Thanks: 65
Thanked 225 Times in 186 Posts
|
Put a cardboard box over your printer. That will provide thermal stability to stop warping of the parts.
If you have delamination you may need to up the extrusion temperature.
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to teoman For This Useful Post:
|
|
11-24-2019, 08:31 PM
|
#70 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: VA
Posts: 1,372
Thanks: 324
Thanked 483 Times in 368 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daox
I was wrong!
I took a closer look at my power usage on the Mirage these past few days. It looks like the single 20A dc-dc output converter may not handle 100% of the load all the time, even at max output. The engine running uses about 6.5A. Turn the headlights on and it jumps to very near 20A (total draw). The fan on low pulls 2-3A and another 3 on full blast. So, I may have to look at a more powerful unit (which I've not been able to find yet) or running two in parallel which I'm not crazy about.
|
Time to get LED headlights!
__________________
2013 Toyota Prius C 2 (my car)
2015 Mazda 3 iTouring Hatchback w/ Tech Package (wife's car)
|
|
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to mpg_numbers_guy For This Useful Post:
|
|
|