10-13-2011, 02:16 PM
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BLADE tailpipe attachment?
The FE gains claimed carry a whiff of unicorns, but because they claim they used an independent testing agency approved by EPA and CARB, I paused: the testing by a California lab apparently showed a 12% FE gain, "no back-pressure," and significant pollution reduction. What do you think? Worth an ABA test?
What Is BLADE?
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10-13-2011, 02:19 PM
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You should trust your instinct, Grasshopper.
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10-13-2011, 02:36 PM
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I've got a feeling that it's a unicorn.
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10-13-2011, 02:51 PM
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California98Civic -
Here's an old thread on same :
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...30-a-3118.html
If it had 0 effect on MPG but really did help emissions, I'd be willing to waste up to $50 on it. But it goes from $125 to $200, which is nuts for chrome + stuffing.
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10-13-2011, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cfg83
California98Civic -
Here's an old thread on same :
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...30-a-3118.html
If it had 0 effect on MPG but really did help emissions, I'd be willing to waste up to $50 on it. But it goes from $125 to $200, which is nuts for chrome + stuffing.
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Sorry. I might have added to that thread if I had known of it. Should have searched first. But that thread started in June 2008 and closed Oct 28, 2008. The testing the manufacturer had done is dated Oct 7 2008. Here is the full report. Clearly 12% FE gains are BOGUS given the report, but modest gains, on a 2004 Civic 3.7% "city" and 6.0% "hwy" are reported... and for other cars as well. A Lincoln actually lost urban FE. Take a look. But I have to agree... the pollution benefits alone would be worth a more modest price but not what they are asking. I have other projects ...
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10-13-2011, 06:07 PM
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My car is up for inspection. I fell for this useless piece of tin many years ago and bought one.
I still have it.
If the inspection station will let me have a free emissions test for science sake, I can do an A - B test of the thing.
I almost threw it away a couple of days ago. I took it off the car ages ago and found that it did so little that i hadn't realized it was even there.
I completely forgot that I had the thing installed.
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10-13-2011, 06:08 PM
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Hello -
I went to the website that tested the product and found this :
Automotive Testing and Development Services - Our Clients
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We have also worked with a variety of major automotive industry suppliers, including:
- Umicore
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Umicore? Sounds suspicious to me, .
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Well what they mean when they say that they worked for a variety of major automotive industry suppliers, is that they worked there as a janitor at the warehouse
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Haha! Okay. But I looked up Umicore using Startingpage Search Engine and came up with this:
Automotive Catalysts :: Umicore Automotive Catalysts first page they have mining operations that seem linked to a global automotic catalyst R&D business. I would think that clinet citation supports the integrity of the testing agency, not undermines it. What makes you suspicious?
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California98Civic -
Hee hee, I was only joking. I am thinking of contacting them to see if they did author the report.
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