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Old 04-30-2019, 12:07 AM   #21 (permalink)
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So there will be an electric screw jack at 'A'?

How many inches wide is the carrier?

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Old 04-30-2019, 12:19 AM   #22 (permalink)
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You guys have helped me a lot. I've abandoned the telescoping tongue, and will now modify the main body of the Harbor Freight trailer to better fit the X-Cargo 20 Cu. Ft. carrier, I will splice in a couple of 24 inch pieces of angle iron to add 19 inches to the main frame. Relocating the axle to possibly gain a longer WB for stability.I will possibly use some gap filling sliders ahead of the carrier to smooth the airflow. The first picture is the stock frame illustrating the hangover that I dislike, and the second picture is the frame stretched 19 inches.
I think that's a great idea.

For rebuild version 1 of my 4x8 trailer I had the wheels pretty far back. Nearly 6 feet back on an 8 foot trailer deck. It rode great. The idea was I would tow it with my suburban so if there was 500 lb of tongue weight, no problem. Just load it fast and slopy, no problem.
Then for version 2, it was being mostly car towed so I put the axle between 1/2 and 2/3 the way under the length of the deck to better control tongue weight. Now if I don't load it correctly I get trailer sway really bad.

With that setup I would be surprised if you saw a 10% fuel economy hit.
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So there will be an electric screw jack at 'A'?
No, I meant that if I move the tongue further back, "A" would go with it. The tongue bolts into that crossbar, and I want to keep it so.
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How many inches wide is the carrier?
The carrier is 36 inches wide and 67 inches long.
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36x67" on a 40" frame. The square frame under the rounded carrier is suboptimal. The carrier is probably thermoplastic and can't be widened. While you're lengthening the deck you could narrow it to 32".

Else just put a skirt on it.
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36x67" on a 40" frame. The square frame under the rounded carrier is suboptimal. The carrier is probably thermoplastic and can't be widened.
Yes, well I plan to lngthen the box frame by 19" and put 3/4" plywood under the carrier.

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While you're lengthening the deck you could narrow it to 32".Else just put a skirt on it.
I'm sure you meant "36". I have thought of using the extra plywood to build a lead up ramp to the fenders, and possibly a side skirt on hinges so I can change the tires. Not sure if the side skirt's extra weight is worth it.
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What's the inside dimension of the floor in the carrier?

Unless you have the Harbor Freight trailer already I'd look for a T-frame


https://www.tyronesnelltrailers.co.u...road-trailers/

The overhanging HF trailer would be what I believe they call, in the UK, a 'dogs breakfast'.

Check out this:



There's not much difference from 0.558 to 0.611. If it's smaller than the tow vehicle, it might offer something for some part of the wake to reattach to.
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It's lower than the tow vehicle, and I plan some gap filler
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It's lowr than the tow vehicle, The Harbor Freight frame will be stretched 19 ", and I plan some gap filler
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I spent too much time trying to find one of Bucky's more obscure inventions, the Mechanical Wing. I eventually found it's name in a book so this turned up:


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-aYf43U1X5_...nical-wind.jpg

Note the 2nd hitch to locate the deployable box. But I did find this.

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