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Old 08-06-2023, 12:45 AM   #391 (permalink)
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Odd enough, even though prefabricated houses and barns are not unheard of in my country, tool sheds and similar structures are mostly improvised. Well, there are some prefabricated sheds made out of wood, actually meant to be used as homes in low-income areas.

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I have watched dozens of shed-building videos and this is definitely one of them.
No it's not because that's not a shed.

If you can't step inside it's a cabinet o a closet.
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If you can't step inside it's a cabinet o a closet.
Harry Potter's cupboard under the staircase?
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Does this constitute rain collection?

I don't have any idea why I had this thread open on my computer, but I resumed reading from wherever I left off too see if I would remember.

Negative, Ghost Rider.

However, since our discussion, I watched this video: I had wondered where various topics I pursued here ended up.
  1. You can legally turn a commercial shed into a house if you live where there aren't laws--outside of city limits or something.
  2. You can order house\garage kits, but the ones with better prices wouldn't be legal for habitation.
  3. People at least used to obsess over pallets, but few people seem to know how to efficiently break down them, and I have never been able to find any.
  4. Insulated studs are vastly more expensive and complicated than double studs.
  5. Metal buildings are often much cheaper than wood
  6. I fixed up Mom's shed and was converting it to an insulated office with drywall when I got into grad school.
  7. Five years and 4 days ago, I was trying to persuade Mom to let me put my brother on my caseload. Seven days ago, someone from work messaged me they were putting put my brother on my caseload. We will see how long this takes.
  8. At least in this thread, I believe that my final answer for the best way to build sheds is hemp building blocks, but I don't have any idea how that would help with the floor or roof.
I didn't finish going through the thread again, apparently my brother is unsupervised.

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I believe that my final answer for the best way to build sheds is hemp building blocks, but I don't have any idea how that would help with the floor or roof.
The ultimate is Geoship's hemp reinforced injection molded geopolymer. They currently use an inner and outer shell with truss separators. Eventually, people will gravitate to Fuller's 'Flyeye' style dome with an outer shell to provide a cavity for insulation and those curvilinear interiors that AI hallucinates.

Walls and roof as one. For the floor, rammed earth on the ground level and a heat exchanger like Fuller used in the 1947 Dymaxion house for the second floor.

Pallet wood and shipping containers are nuisances.
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Odd enough, container houses are quite expensive here. Sure transport from the harbor, and then to the factory where they're turned into living quarters, increases the overall cost too.
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So, our AC is out, and we have had 3 100°F days

I never considered it wasn't cooling because it was comfortable until the sun went down, but then it got stuffy, so we opened up the doors.

Mom kept harassing me about it and again, it was comfortable during the day, so I tried to focus on the whole staying in grad school thing, but I replaced the filter immediately.

It didn't fit right and someone told me to find a half-size.
I didn't find half sizes, but it is one of those things where the actual size is a bit smaller.
The replacements were 19.81x29.81, so I ordered some that were actually 19.5x19.5, but both came in two packs.

I finally asked the landlady to send someone to ensure it would work when we needed it.

Two weeks later, I started trying to troubleshoot it, and didn't seem to figure out anything, but people recommend dehumidifiers, so I ordered this, and resumed trying to stay in grad school:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Midea-Cube-50-Pint-Smart-Wifi-Dehumidifier-with-Pump-4-500-sq-ft-Coverage-Area-New-MAD50PS1QWT/298676710

However, I felt concerns after encountering something like this
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A dehumidifier is essentially an air conditioner that dumps heat back into your living space.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32095747

I thought it was something like this: However, I didn't realize that not only did one-hose units exist, but Alec said they are vastly more popular, despite pulling hot air into the home. Two-hose units would also pull hot air into the house, but at least condition it first, but how far apart would the intake and exhaust be with a two-hose setup?

Regardless, I thought the dehumidifier would send cool and dry air into the room out one side, and hot dry air out the other.

I didn't have any idea that they blow the cool and dry air over the condenser coil, making it warmer than ever, as Alec kindly explained one week after my dehumidifier arrived! So, if you prioritize water over electricity, you could pull water out of thin air, you would just create a great deal of heat in the process.

Of course, I am sure that desalination plants produce heat as well, as well as dangerously-salty water.

I had just visualized mountains of salt, but apparently it costs too much to remove all of the water.

I have heard of places that allow salty water to evaporate, but apparently not desalination plants.

I had been thinking about the moisture farmers in Dune and thinking there must be a way of gathering dew, although it wouldn't seem efficient.

Living in a desert far from the coast, I had not thought of morning fog, which wouldn't have existed on Arrakis, either.

This guy caused fog to condense so he could collect it and said it was 9x as effective as a dehumidifier he bought off Amazon with the same power usage: Alec said those aren't effective, but I don't know they condense less water per watt-hour, they are probably just too small to work.

In the comments, people compared the power efficiency favorably and unfavorably with desalination plants, with one person pointing out the damage that all of the super-salty water creates.

There was also a discussion with people who live in and travel to the desert in Africa, plus the creator said he would try it in the Atacama desert, so hopefully we see some real-world testing.

A second AC repairman is supposed to arrive today.
I am sure he charges significantly less than the first one, who admitted his company charges more than most.
When I looked up the 20 closest places, they had fewer combined reviews than his company.
He said "You have lots of problems."
He referred to the AC system, right?
Right?!

He said the thermostat is bad, which the landlady says she changed just before we moved in.
Apparently, there is often a date on the back, but not ours, although we realized that it was set up for a heat pump, not a conventional unit. If it is bad, a replacement would be super easy and around $40, although it should be under warranty.
What killed it, though, freebeard in his Beetle, with his fingers on his temples?
However, switching thermostat back to conventional didn't mystically magically make it turn on.
He said the wiring is bad. There are three places he could jump the connection to turn on the AC, but two of them popped the breaker.
I forget if he said anything else, although he replaced the 3-week-old filter, but undoubtedly, there is vastly more dust in the house with the doors open.

I think they also said they need to replace the condenser, which is a vastly more expensive, but a quick search shows way more than $700, so maybe I heard wrong, I wasn't sure either time.

Unfortunately, the unit is almost 15 years old, so if they get it working this week, it may not last the summer.

Curiously, Home Depot shows a 28,000-BTU unit in-stock for $881.49, and that would allegedly be adequate for our entire house, which sounds like one room would be freezing, and the far rooms would be hot, although they have two smaller units for $550.

I would think you would want each room to have its own unit, but if the AC does go out, Arizona law requires our landlady to pay for us to stay somewhere while she repairs our HVAC, up to 125% of our rent.
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Couldn't be, I was driving the XFi the whole time.
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Odd enough, container houses are quite expensive here. Sure transport from the harbor, and then to the factory where they're turned into living quarters, increases the overall cost too.
I have done plenty of container into living quarters with lights, plumbing, sewerage, insulation and aircon. It's actually pretty quick and easy.

If in a hot climate; the very first thing to do is get it in the shade under a rudimentary (Africa Thatch) roof with around 6 feet of overhang and a gap of at least a foot between the top and the roof.
While not ideal, the next thing I did was install the aircons, then proceed with the conversion.

Without the shade/thatch, the genset labours and sucks diesel, pulling the ~6 aircons, at around 2.5X the rate it does with shade.
It's not easy to convince er... 'non technical instincts' of this law of physics.
Shutting them into a container in the sun for a minute or 5 normally does wonders for their understanding of physics!

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What did you do about the potentially toxic flooring?

Hereabouts, they make trailers out of flat roof and wall panels held together [temporarily] with an aluminum extrusion. When that fails they erect a post and beam flat roof with asphalt roll roofing. When that fails, as it shall, they throw a tarp over that.

What I'd consider is the corrugated panels they use to roof rail car transport [cars]:


https://www.floridarail.com/ckfinder...L_Rochelle.jpg

That would be 10'6" in width in 2 or 3 foot segments.

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