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Old 11-29-2009, 08:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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don't remove the spoiler from the trunk

find a corrolla forum and trade trunks with someone who wants your spoiler!
Unfortunately i've been looking on a corolla forum for a while trying to get a spoilerless trunk with no luck. There's not too many people who do want a trunk with a spoiler. In the rare cases that someone is selling one or wants to trade, it seems like everyone jumps on it and it's gone quick.

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I second the idea on trading trunk lids. At least go to the junkyard and get a clean deck lid, then sell yours to someone else...
I'm gonna take a look at some junkyards again. So far i haven't found any by me yet with wrecked '03-'08 corollas, just older ones, but maybe i'll get lucky.

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Old 11-29-2009, 10:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Looks good.

I'd be more concerned about those window shades than the rear spoiler, though. I bet removing them would make more of an improvement than the rear skirts have.

FYI, I did A-B-A tests on rear skirts on your style of Corolla:

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The difference was pretty small.

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* Your back glass has a pretty steep angle, so you most likely have detached flow. Doing a tuft test would show where the separation is occurring.
I've also done tuft testing. You can see the separation bubble on the rear glass in this thread:

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Old 11-30-2009, 12:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I missed the window shades -- the rear ones in particular are probably adding drag. A tuft test might tell you if the front ones are also causing turbulence.
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Old 11-30-2009, 05:32 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'd be more concerned about those window shades than the rear spoiler, though. I bet removing them would make more of an improvement than the rear skirts have.
The only reason why i haven't yet is because i crack the windows while it's raining driving around town to keep the windows/windshield from fogging up, and they stop rain from getting in. I've definitely been thinking about pulling them off though.

Besides using the defroster, which i don't wanna do, what's the best way to prevent having the windows fog up in the rain?
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The only reason why i haven't yet is because i crack the windows while it's raining driving around town to keep the windows/windshield from fogging up, and they stop rain from getting in. I've definitely been thinking about pulling them off though.

Besides using the defroster, which i don't wanna do, what's the best way to prevent having the windows fog up in the rain?
I have them for the same reasons, but only for the front windows. I also use them to "hide" my slightly open window in parking lots (for keeping the interior cooler, especially in the summer).

Once they are defogged, can you do this test? :

1 - Set the heat to full
2 - Set the dial to "defrost windows only"
3 - Let the outside air into the cabin to create an airflow

I think this should create a less-powerful less-hot but continuous warm airflow onto the front window.

Maybe I should remove mine for awhile and see if I can live without 'em. It's not like it rains much in LA.

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Another option is to unplug the fuse on the A/C during the winter, so you can run the defroster.

I just crack my front windows and no rain gets in, but it certainly helps the air flow.
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I've always cracked the rear windows where applicable, to help draw fresh air through the vents, keeping the temp selector on high heat and the fan off. I guess if you keep the window open just so much, it creates a vacuum that draws air out of the car, so fresh air has to come in through the vents.
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I'm definitely pulling at least the rears off then, if not all of them

Update:

I really wanna say my MPG has increased since installing the rear wheel skirts. Yesterday i got the best f/e i've ever gotten on my trip to school pulling into the lot - 48.5 MPG . When i first got off the pike coming to the light after the toll booths, i saw over 50, then i had some stop and go driving. I've never seen it that high before in my life . The best i've seen before the skirts was 47.5 pulling into the lot. Granted i could have had a huge tail wind yesterday, but when i got out of my car it was calm. I also got great f/e on the way back home, even in the rain.

Couldn't really tell today because it was about 15-20° colder, but still got 45.7 MPG. I did get some awesome f/e on the way home after putting on a small upper grill block in my school parking lot though before i left
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Glad you're getting good results and having fun.

As for those window shade things, someone needs to come up with a very low profile version for modders who want the functionality with less frontal area and drag.

Or a rare-earth magnet attachment system so you can take 'em off for the majority of time it's not raining.

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