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Old 01-29-2016, 10:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
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They don't have any small cars now.... the Dart/200 is a mid-size.
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I remember(12 years ago) spending 5 weeks in France(paris) and Italy (southern) and thinking as the weeks went by that the Jetta looked like a big car!

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Old 01-29-2016, 10:44 PM   #22 (permalink)
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DOE says that gas will be around $4/gal by 2020.
They are usually correct.
Then everyone with a 14mpg truck that they are still paying on has to drive a 30 mile commute will freak out when gas starts to go over $3/gal.

I drive a bug that is paid off. Even if gas gets so cheap they pay me to take it I am still keeping that stupid VW.
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I would rather drive a Mitsubishi than a Chrystler. The other part of the escalation is the number of people that want at least as large a vehicle as everyone else, so they are safer!
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:28 PM   #24 (permalink)
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In spite of car sales growing, the mid-size sedan segment is decreasing. Not just because gas is cheap and buyers can afford something with poor fuel economy but because crossover SUV economy is UP and buyers can get a vehicle with more utility and nearly the same fuel economy. The mid-size sedan is now competing with the small crossover SUV, and the crossover is winning.
If only there was a design that was about the same size as a sedan with about the same cargo capacity as a crossover that still got the same mileage as the sedan. *cough*wagon*cough*

I wonder if their 10 year plan includes them getting bailed out again?
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:36 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I always hear/read about these "Cummings" yet I've never seen one. :/
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Second, as fuel economy requirements rise in coming years, FCA will have a hard time meeting them without small and midsize cars in their portfolio; any businessperson worth their salt should be taking that into consideration
I think they definitely have been taking that into consideration. Sergio's "plan" appears to be: "somebody, anybody, PLEASE buy this company before this bubble bursts again."
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Old 01-30-2016, 12:27 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I always hear/read about these "Cummings" yet I've never seen one. :/
Yes, thats why you're so grumpy.
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Old 01-30-2016, 02:10 PM   #28 (permalink)
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So, Chrystler says that it does not make sense to produce small cars, but they are owned by Fiat, who makes small ugly cars...

Of all of the car companies to purchase another with a poor reputation for reliability...
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Old 01-30-2016, 02:48 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I'm not sure what's more concerning:
A. Chrysler making yet another dumb decision that will screw them in the long term or

B. The fact that car manufacturers seem to be just rebadging everyone elses compacts lately. At this rate we'll eventually have a whopping two compact cars on the market.
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Chrysler was actually the first "domestic" company to make a small car that actually made a profit, the first generation Neon. Diamler ran them into the ground in the time they owned it. Stole the best, and let the government bail out the leftovers. Maybe it's just the curse of Jeep.

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