Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-17-2013, 08:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
Burn lean and prosper\\//
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: scranton pa
Posts: 576

VLX - '93 Honda Civic VLX
Team Honda
90 day: 51.1 mpg (US)
Thanks: 55
Thanked 65 Times in 54 Posts
Civic sedan kammback

Im wanting to do a kamm on the vlx. I don't want one on top of the back window. Best thing I could think of is the style on a pro stock drag car. Any aero guys weigh in? I'm not sure if it would be worth it but it should do something.


__________________
Burn lean and prosper \\ //
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 10-17-2013, 05:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 15,895
Thanks: 23,972
Thanked 7,223 Times in 4,650 Posts
something

Quote:
Originally Posted by slownugly View Post
Im wanting to do a kamm on the vlx. I don't want one on top of the back window. Best thing I could think of is the style on a pro stock drag car. Any aero guys weigh in? I'm not sure if it would be worth it but it should do something.

At least one of the members has tried it and I don't remember that it 'showed' at the gas pump.You might search around at the forum.
Adding length is good if top,sides,and belly are treated simultaneously.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
slownugly (10-22-2013)
Old 10-17-2013, 07:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
Hydrogen > EV
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NW Ohio, United States
Posts: 2,025

Silver Flea - '05 Honda Insight
90 day: 58.96 mpg (US)
Thanks: 994
Thanked 402 Times in 285 Posts
I am trying (and still doing) it. It seemed to work the two tanks, but it's nothing scientific. I saw the results from a Beetle here (http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ted-26915.html), and know the success of boattails, so it only seemed fitting.

I know it works (in my head I know it...lol) and I am not really caring about testing. It doesn't matter to me if it is a little or a lot, I will fine tune and maybe test when it's warm. As it gets colder here (in Northern Ohio), my mileage will drop. In the Mustang it stayed the same or went up, as I continued to mod- so when I got to warm weather, it was great- I am planning the same with the Insight.
__________________





Best Tanks:
Mustang - 54.83 mpg (US) at the Green Grand Prix
Insight - 82.91966 mpg (US) over 818.5 miles.
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to UltArc For This Useful Post:
aerohead (10-18-2013), slownugly (10-22-2013)
Old 10-22-2013, 06:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
Cyborg ECU
 
California98Civic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Coastal Southern California
Posts: 6,299

Black and Green - '98 Honda Civic DX Coupe
Team Honda
90 day: 66.42 mpg (US)

Black and Red - '00 Nashbar Custom built eBike
90 day: 3671.43 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,373
Thanked 2,172 Times in 1,469 Posts
I have played around with designs for spoilers and rear box cavities, and I have not yet come to a conclusion or built a final version (only in the mode of "cardboard aided design"). But I'll share these pictures I took this morning when I arrived at work, since my 1998 Coupe is very similar to your VLX.

Driving to work, the car got a light misting in the last two miles, stop and go traffic and then speeds up to 45/50 mph. Here are the water traces on the roof and rear glass that were left when I arrived at work.





I think the traces across the rear show a lot of turbulence.

And here is an older image, in which a morning mist had left my tufts pasted to the car in a trace of the air flow:



My sense is that the rear turbulence cause by the too sharp angle of the rear glass and c pillars would be tough to reduce very greatly at the speeds we usually drive, unless you built a Kammback.

But I still want to try spoilers and such, so I am game to see what you might attempt and test.

Subscribed.
__________________
See my car's mod & maintenance thread and my electric bicycle's thread for ongoing projects. I will rebuild Black and Green over decades as parts die, until it becomes a different car of roughly the same shape and color. My minimum fuel economy goal is 55 mpg while averaging posted speed limits. I generally top 60 mpg. See also my Honda manual transmission specs thread.



  Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to California98Civic For This Useful Post:
aerohead (10-22-2013), Cd (10-23-2013), slownugly (10-22-2013)
Old 10-22-2013, 07:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
Burn lean and prosper\\//
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: scranton pa
Posts: 576

VLX - '93 Honda Civic VLX
Team Honda
90 day: 51.1 mpg (US)
Thanks: 55
Thanked 65 Times in 54 Posts
Maybe I'll try a cheap version with cardboard, duct tape and some rod. Can hurt
__________________
Burn lean and prosper \\ //
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to slownugly For This Useful Post:
aerohead (10-23-2013)
Old 10-23-2013, 04:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
Cd
Ultimate Fail
 
Cd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Austin,Texas
Posts: 3,585
Thanks: 2,872
Thanked 1,121 Times in 679 Posts
YKYAEM when you get excited about misting tracks on your car :-) ( good catch there Cali98 ! )

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Cd For This Useful Post:
California98Civic (10-23-2013)
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com