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Old 09-29-2009, 11:05 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 10-01-2009, 03:54 PM   #22 (permalink)
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ok, The dealer actually had the o2 sensor in stock. 4 wire.
So, researching this, i found a few "how to change CA to 49 state", but none of them add a didoe (i think its a diode) to the harness.
Does anyone know why this would be added ?
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Old 10-01-2009, 09:02 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Can you take a pic of whatever was put in there extra? It was probably a resistor... for some reason, ricers think they'll get some exponential HP gain with resistors that will trick the ECU into UBERHONDAISGOD mode...
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:17 PM   #24 (permalink)
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...a diode will typically introduce a 0.6-0.7Vdc drop if it's in series with a current source.

...sounds like a "voltage" offset of some type.

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Old 10-02-2009, 12:47 AM   #25 (permalink)
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ok, on the left side where the red and white wires are, is the "extra" which def does not look like any resistor ive ever seen. The blurry plug on the right is where it connects to the primary o2. The 5th wire on the o2 going to ground.




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Old 10-02-2009, 12:49 AM   #26 (permalink)
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oh, on the top of the "diode" its says "N 5x"
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Old 10-02-2009, 03:33 PM   #27 (permalink)
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...what does it measure using an Ohm-meter? Open, some resistance, or a dead short?

...if it measures a very high resistance in one direction and a very low resistance in the other direction, then it probably *is* a diode.
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Old 10-02-2009, 03:48 PM   #28 (permalink)
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yes, i know how it works, but unfortunately i do not own a meter right now.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:50 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Found on NGK.com's web page nice explanation....



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Wide Band oxygen sensors may also be referred to as 5 Wire oxygen sensors and Air/Fuel sensors (although not all Air/Fuel sensors are wide band).



Simple explanation first.
Wide Band sensors operate different from traditional oxygen sensors by producing a variable voltage based on the air/fuel ratio in the exhaust gas. This is different from earlier oxygen sensors as they only reported if the air/fuel mix was rich or lean, but not how rich or how lean. A Wide Band Oxygen sensor is superior because it helps the ECU maintain a stoichiometric air/fuel mixture by supplying a variable voltage telling the ECU how rich or lean the current exhaust gas is. This allows for far more accurate and efficient engine fuel management.


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There are significant engineering differences between how the wide band sensor and its predecessor, the zirconia planar sensor operate. However, we are not prepared to go into Nernst cell anode/cathode diffusion gaps, so we’ll keep it simple. The 5 wire or Wide Band oxygen sensor builds upon the original planar design, but it adds the ability to actually measure the air/fuel ratio directly. Instead of only switching back and forth from rich to lean like its binary zirconia predecessor, the wide band oxygen sensor produces a variable (voltage) that tells the ECU how rich or how lean the current air/fuel mixture is. This is a much more precise method of metering the air/fuel mixture. Instead of constantly cycling back and forth from rich to lean to keep up with the latest report from the oxygen sensor, the ECU can now maintain a constant 14.7:1 mixture (also known as stoichiometric) because of the superior reporting from the wide band sensor.

Other differences between the 5 wire wide band oxygen sensor and the zirconia planar type are, the 5 wire wide band operates at about 1200 to 1500° Fahrenheit instead of the standard operational temperature of about 600° (316° Celsius). Also it does not produce its own voltage; it is reliant on a controller or ECU to supply a reference voltage to operate. Based on the oxygen content of the exhaust, the sensor delivers a signal ranging from 5 volts for a rich mixture to 0 volts for an extremely lean mixture (0.0 volts for straight air), A standard zirconia sensor reported a simple binary signal of greater or lesser than 450 millivolts.

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Old 10-04-2009, 08:55 PM   #30 (permalink)
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...that's the type of sensor used with after-market A/F meters that drive LED arrays or meter to show the actual A/F-ratio, either by lighting LEDs or by moving meter numbers.

...still don't know that that "fuse-like" thing does however.

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