The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

we... squandered the essentially 'free' energy on idling our car at the stoplight, on the way to our job selling insurance — or worse yet, selling advertising for insurance.

Or worse, selling insurance (credit default swaps) of collateralized debt obligations.

Let me sell you nothing (or worse than nothing), hire my own auditor to certify that nothing is worth something, and then insure it.

[freebeard]

Whelp, my mind is blown. Embedded here for your convenience is today's posting by Suspicious 0bservers. The Sun-Earth-Moon 'three-body problem" exhibits periodicity at 9, 72, 230, and 1200 year intervals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weth9ypgpWw

With charts and graphs. Can you guess where we are on the curve right now?

Plus which, because of the Moon's apogee and perigee, it's gravity can vary more than 40% on a vector that wanders through the North and South hemispheres on IIRC a different cycle. The molten core of the earth has 'tides' of up to 1.4km [citation needed] and as the tectonic plates relax after the peak is when you get earthquakes.

19:21 out of your day at speed=1.

[NeilBlanchard]

Oh, it is very complex. The "extra" gravitation pull of all the ice on Antarctica has shifted sea level toward the south pole, changing the shape of the earth. The earth's spin causes it to be an oblate spheroid, but the ~2.5 MILES of ice is pushing the land under it down by almost 1/2 mile. AND the bulge of the ocean (which otherwise would be centered on the equator) is shifted south quite a bit.

Even which mountain we call the tallest - would change, if / when all the Antarctic ice melts. Instead of Mt Everest being called the tallest - it would be Mt Chimborazo in Ecuador.

The 'Highest' Spot on Earth? : Krulwich Wonders... : NPR

If all the Antarctic ice melts, and given enough time for all the water to shift - the northern hemisphere would have about 100' of additional sea level rise, because of all the water that is currently held in place by the "extra" gravity of the Antarctic ice.

AND, the speed of earth's spin would change (slow down, I think?) so a solar day would be longer, and we'd gain more heat from the sun - AND it would change the orbit of the moon, too!

Because, remember the tides are accelerating the moon's orbit - eventually, the moon will reach escape velocity and fly away ... I think that having more liquid water will make this happen more quickly - but that is only a guess.

[NeilBlanchard]

I meant to mention that if / when all the ice on Antarctica melts - it will change the pressure on various tectonic plates, and therefore it will affect earthquakes and volcanoes, etc.

Here's my blog post from 2014 on this: Neil Blanchard Designs: Other Effects of Climate Change

[sendler]

China has big plans to be the world leader in Nuclear power and along with Russia will eventually own all of the intellctual rights to the newer and much improved systems. So when the rest of us finally realize that we need it. We will have to pay them to license and build it for us. Giving them another huge economic advantage over the rest of the world.
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China Nuclear Power | Chinese Nuclear Energy - World Nuclear Association
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[freebeard]

Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard

Oh, it is very complex.

The point of the Suspicious 0bservers video is that the iron core is more affected by the Moon than the Magma, crust and surface waters. By orders of magnitude.

Originally Posted by sendler

China has big plans to be the world leader in Nuclear power and along with Russia will eventually own all of the intellctual rights to the newer and much improved systems. So when the rest of us finally realize that we need it. We will have to pay them to license and build it for us.

And the nation with the IP lock on nano-scale fabrication and mechanism will have moved beyond the need for distributed power systems. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[freebeard]

I came back to edit that post; but here're two stories I found since then:

Scientists have spiders producing enhanced web that can hold a human

This is pretty low tech. Spider drink water tainted with carbon nanotubes and then they can truss up a human. All they need is frickin' lasers on their heads.

Researchers find an enzyme that harvests light to make hydrocarbons

How does the protein manage this trick, and why does it need light to do it? The blue light it uses turns out to be the wavelengths typically absorbed by a chemical called "flavin adenine dinucleotide" (FAD), which is commonly used as a co-factor in many biochemical reactions. And, when the researchers looked at the structure of the enzyme, they found that FAD is present and held in close proximity to the oxygens of the fat molecule.

The authors think that, in this enzyme, light causes FAD to steal an electron from the fat molecule, leaving it in an unstable state. The fat responds by kicking out a carbon and two oxygens, forming carbon dioxide, a process that's very energetically favorable. After that happens, the remaining hydrocarbon steals the electron back from the FAD, resetting the enzyme for use on another fat molecule.

So, because it uses light for energy, the system doesn't need to be supplied with a constant source of chemical energy.

In this case — algae-wrangling for fun and profit. Also:

Motorised molecules drill into cancer cells

2-3 million RPM drill motors. Cancer better watch out!

[ar5boosted]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

Superconducting fiber optics?

Anyone seen the weather simulation for 9/11/17 ?

https://www.ventusky.com/?p=36.5;-72...&t=20170910/15

[freebeard]

That's an interesting site. Similar to https://www.windy.com/ or https://earth.nullschool.net/. I couldn't figure out how to display the ocean waves.

My friends congregate each evening to drink alcohol and watch the TV weather. I try to explain how vector matrix fields (Ventusky: current lines) make the isobars that the TV weather use look like the 1980s; but they refuse understanding. They're still my friends though.

[Natalya]

Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard

Because, remember the tides are accelerating the moon's orbit - eventually, the moon will reach escape velocity and fly away ... I think that having more liquid water will make this happen more quickly - but that is only a guess.

Sorry I know this isn't like the point of the thread, but I have to step in here on this.

Tides are slowing earth's rotation down (making the day longer) and speeding the moon up, but the moon won't be sent to escape velocity. Long before that could ever happen the process will end with the earth and the moon tidally locked to eachother so that one day on earth takes the same amount of time as it does for the moon to orbit the earth. This way one side of the moon will face the earth. Right now it is estimated that this process will take billions of years.

Melting Antarctica, while bad for many reasons, isn't going to have much of an impact on the moon's rotation of the earth.