The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[freebeard]

https://climatecrisis.house.gov/site...terYouTube.pdf

Yikes! Suspicious 0bservers feels directly threatened by this assault on the First Amendment coming from the U.S. House Select Committee on the Climate
Crisis

[All Darc]

Another uncle Jordan quote???
Or did you took if from oil company?

The science took us ahead, but the greed can lead to destruction if we polute water, destroy nature space, polute air, create greed and idiot people.

It's a matter of balance, and I'm not seing balance, just greed and stupidity.

Originally Posted by redpoint5

The world has never been better for people. We've got this idiotic idea that nature is the Garden of Eden for people, when the reality is that it tries mighty hard to kill everyone all the time. So, we modify the environment to better accommodate our needs. When nature would have us die at 28 years old due to bacterial infection, we take antibiotics and overcome it. When nature would produce tiny amounts of edible fruits and grains, we maximize the yield and develop transportation of goods so that we can eat year round.

Our mastery over nature brings its own problems, but overall we improve the environment for humanity. We will eventually create the seeds of our own destruction, but it isn't going to be slight adjustments to the outdoor thermostat that does us in.

[freebeard]

Another uncle Jordan quote???
Or did you took if from oil company?

I see nothing that couldn't be as easily attributed to Buckminster Fuller.

What do you think of the theory that the harsh and forbidding climate of space will burn the evil out of space monkeys?

Originally Posted by myself

I recommend Heaven and Earth.

aerohead — Thanks for the thanks. If you watch the movie (I know Oliver Stone is a controversial director) Let me know what you think. It's the only American movie that shows the Vietnamese side. The young woman goes from bound and kneeling next to an open [communist] grave to an American supermarket. It's quite the story.

[All Darc]

I really don't understand why do you say such things for me...

Originally Posted by freebeard

What do you think of the theory that the harsh and forbidding climate of space will burn the evil out of space monkeys?

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by aerohead

I was unaware that CFCs were presently in production after the late 1980s.It was supposed to be a global ban and phase-out.The internet said nothing about recent manufacture.Carbon dioxide has been available as a blowing agent for polyurethane/polyisocyanurate foams for 30-years,and it's cheaper than FREON.

The chicoms claim R11 makes better foam cheaper.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by aerohead

Dream on,dreamer.

I will. There's only something like 30 papers that have been published, all proven in nature on solar forcing for cyclones.
You keep clinging to your obsolete and failing religion.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by AllDarc

I really don't understand why do you say such things for me...

It was a question. 'No Opinion' would have been acceptable. It wasn't a trap, just looking for a 2nd opinion.

If anything it was a veiled reference to a John Prine song. "Space monkey, space monkey What you doing out there? Why it's dark as a dungeon way up in the air."

[RustyLugNut]

Originally Posted by freebeard

It was a question. 'No Opinion' would have been acceptable. It wasn't a trap, just looking for a 2nd opinion.

If anything it was a veiled reference to a John Prine song. "Space monkey, space monkey What you doing out there? Why it's dark as a dungeon way up in the air."

for the John Prine Reference!

[hayden55]

I agree. What's wrong with a little warming. I wanna live in the cheap and beautiful Arkansas, but with the winter weather of Florida. I tried to see the beautiful in Texas, but its ugly. Shooo...

[freebeard]

news.slashdot.org: Climate Models Are Running Red Hot, and Scientists Don't Know Why (bloomberg.com)

There are dozens of climate models, and for decades they've agreed on what it would take to heat the planet by about 3 Celsius. It's an outcome that would be disastrous -- flooded cities, agricultural failures, deadly heat -- but there's been a grim steadiness in the consensus among these complicated climate simulations. Then last year, unnoticed in plain view, some of the models started running very hot. The scientists who hone these systems used the same assumptions about greenhouse-gas emissions as before and came back with far worse outcomes. Some produced projections in excess of 5C, a nightmare scenario.
[snip]
The reason for worry is that these same models have successfully projected global warming for a half century. Their output continues to frame all major scientific, policy and private-sector climate goals and debates, including the sixth encyclopedic assessment by the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change due out next year. If the same amount of climate pollution will bring faster warming than previously thought, humanity would have less time to avoid the worst impacts.

Are the models trending hotter or is the actual climate trending colder?

In other news: https://www.bbc.com/news: Milan car ban: Drivers ignore anti-pollution measure
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oy1ZroK_EI

This guy is a sort of an anti-Trump; he's got orange rings around his eyes. [kidding, I respect his opinions]