The climate change movement: July 28, 1995 to August 14, 2020 RIP

[aerohead]

typo

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Minutes, hours, and days are also considered rapid to a climatologist, which is the timeframe the earth experienced meteorite caused climate change. Life persisted.

Existential is off the table. Degree of stress to various species is where the rational discussion is.

Those proclaiming existential aren't engaged in a debate of reason, but regurgitating religious dogma. We can take them as seriously as the guy on the street corner proclaiming the return of Jesus in 12 years.

* Anaerobic thermophiles are the only thing which could exist within the heavy bombardment period, which had a duration of millions of years.
* The 'great oxygenation event' would come much later.
* The rodents we evolved from didn't take off until after the meteor took out the dinosaurs, 65-million years ago.
* Existential 'IS' on the table. It's the only conclusion that can be drawn from the models.
* The jury's out on the timeline, but as observations, computers, and models improve, they'll continue to sneak up on harder numbers.
* There is no paleo record of climate change which indicated the magnitude, and velocity that we're presently witnessing.
* We're asked not to mention religion.

[oil pan 4]

Everyone wants to save the world until they can't afford to turn their heat on.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-62820639

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Everyone wants to save the world until they can't afford to turn their heat on.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-62820639

If I can live without 'heat' so can they. I'm not interested in their ---ching and moaning.
Bring 'em to Denton and I'll drag 'em down to LOWE's or Home Depot and acquaint them with thermal insulation.
South-facing glazings.
Turtlenecks.
Long underwear.
Layering.
Knitted headwear.
Blankets.
Comforters.
I believe that they're acquainted with hot tea?
High-caloric foods?
Maybe their builders could come into the 20th-Century?
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' Oh yeah, we just love the new central heating unit. Now we're saving for doors and windows.'

[freebeard]

Albert King -- Everybody Wants to go to Heaven, But Nobody Wants to Die

[aerohead]

Cool!
never had the privilege to experience him in a live performance.

[freebeard]

Words to live by:

Everybody wants to laugh
Ah, but nobody wants to cry
...

Everybody wants to go to heaven
But nobody wants to die

Everybody want to hear the truth
But yet, everybody wants to tell a lie
...

Oh everybody wants to go to heaven
But nobody wants to die

[aerohead]

Ocean acidification may not be 'true,' however, according to Scripps, and nineteen other leading oceanographic research centers, ocean acidification is a fact.
* Abyssal ( deep ocean ) water, at 3,000-meters depth or below = 95% of all ocean water.
* Abyssal organic matter cycling in seafloor sediment helps buffer delta-pH and the effects of acidification.
* Abyssal water will rise by 1-C over the next 85-years, increasing the metabolic rate for deep organisms, requiring an increase in nutrients, while they'll be deprived by 50% of nutrients by then, due to global warming.
* Carbonic acid ( H2CO3 ) will only concentrate as a feedback.
* Loss of sea ice drives the genesis of the entire mechanism.
* Afterwards, warm surface water stratification prevents what feeble nutrient is remaining from settling/ burial.

[freebeard]

Makes you wonder, are there more life forms in the abyssal waters or the continental crusts.

https://www.scientificamerican.com › article › life-found-deep-inside-earths-oceanic-crust
Life Found Deep inside Earth's Oceanic Crust
This crust is several kilometers thick and covers 60% of the planet's surface, making it the largest habitat on Earth. The microbes inside it seem to survive largely by using hydrogen, formed when...

https://phys.org › news › 2022-08-ancient-source-oxygen-life-hidden.html
Ancient source of oxygen for life hidden deep in the Earth's crust
8 Aug 2022Researchers were able to simulate some of the key conditions of subsurface rock fracturing using vials in the lab. Rocks representative of oceanic and continental crust were crushed under nitrogen ...

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Makes you wonder, are there more life forms in the abyssal waters or the continental crusts.

I believe that the Russians have drilled the deepest bore hole, at around 10-miles depth, so whatever came out of that hole would represent out deepest 'look' into the crust.
Submersibles, investigating life around hydrothermal vents on the seafloor have to keep some distance due to extreme temperatures.
NASA probably have the most data, as we'll be going to Enceladus to look for life at the south polar region.
There's an internal ocean, heated by Roche tidal effects which warms it, and there they be some form of life there, as concentrated organic molecules have been detected by Cassini, in erupting geyser plumes shooting into space.

[redpoint5]

What is the limiting factor for depth of drilling? Does the drill rod get too heavy?