11-04-2017, 03:13 PM
|
#41 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,528
Thanks: 8,077
Thanked 8,871 Times in 7,323 Posts
|
Your putting facts in a poop thread?
|
|
|
Today
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
11-05-2017, 01:44 AM
|
#42 (permalink)
|
It's all about Diesel
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 12,873
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1,683 Times in 1,501 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xist
"Experiments in sheep showed that if dried Asparagopsis taxiformis seaweed made up just 2 percent of total feed, methane emissions drop by 70 percent."
"Seaweed experiments in Canada were inspired by observations that seaside cattle, who periodically chowed down on storm-tossed seaweed, were both heftier and healthier than their inland relatives."
"Scientists calculate that it would take some 6,000 hectares (about 15,000 acres) of seaweed farms to supply a mere 10 percent of Australia’s 29 million cattle; to supply America’s 92 million would take over thirty times more."
Some articles say 99%, but that was in cow simulations, compared to the experiments with live sheep.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/p...-burping-cows/
|
I lived for some 12 years in an island and didn't see any cow munching on seaweed but anyway, it seems to be another good way to overcome not just the methane issue but also to decrease the need for agricultural lands in order to provide food for livestock.
|
|
|
11-05-2017, 11:24 AM
|
#43 (permalink)
|
Not Doug
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,230
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,229 Times in 1,719 Posts
|
Create seaweed farms for livestock feed.
Methane production goes down.
Livestock are larger and healthier.
The farms turn seawater and carbon dioxide into oxygen.
On average, according to Google, a head of cattle eats 27 pounds of food daily. If 1.5 billion cows eat .27 pounds each, that is 405 million pounds of seaweed per day. That must lower the sea level something, even if it is negligible.
If you add 2% seaweed to chili, does it reduce the methane production?
|
|
|
11-05-2017, 11:37 AM
|
#44 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 5,077
Thanks: 2,903
Thanked 2,560 Times in 1,586 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xist
If you add 2% seaweed to chili, does it reduce the methane production?
|
This vegetarian is going to give it a shot at least.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Ecky For This Useful Post:
|
|
11-05-2017, 01:53 PM
|
#45 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,528
Thanks: 8,077
Thanked 8,871 Times in 7,323 Posts
|
Vegetarians should heed the tale of Findhorn Foundation
They took seaweed home in wheelbarrows to make topsoil instead of milk and beef.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
|
|
11-05-2017, 04:26 PM
|
#46 (permalink)
|
Not Doug
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,230
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,229 Times in 1,719 Posts
|
Interesting. I eat Kashi and Ramen throughout the week, but make dinner with a vegetarian Saturdays. I keep looking up vegetarian recipes and finding they call for eggs.
I need to start doing push-ups each time that happens. Hey! Push-ups!
|
|
|
11-07-2017, 11:56 PM
|
#47 (permalink)
|
It's all about Diesel
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 12,873
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1,683 Times in 1,501 Posts
|
IIRC some folks replace eggs with a gel made out of boiled lineseed, or bananas when it's a sweet recipe. Algae gelatin could also work for that matter.
Seems like there are more possibilities for seaweed farming than it initially appeared.
|
|
|
11-08-2017, 12:34 AM
|
#48 (permalink)
|
Not Doug
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,230
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,229 Times in 1,719 Posts
|
The princess that made our cookies in the bakery where I worked for a few months said you can substitute applesauce for eggs and you cannot tell the difference.
I told her that you can substitute applesauce for oil, but eggs are a binder.
She went to school to be a baker...
For all that I know, she still has a job, too.
|
|
|
11-08-2017, 10:36 AM
|
#49 (permalink)
|
Not Doug
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,230
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,229 Times in 1,719 Posts
|
Rice is bad for the environment!
I do not believe I mentioned the following. I told a professor that supposedly cows were responsible for more greenhouse gas effets than all cars, trucks, and buses in the world.
He replied "Cows aren't, but construction is," although I could not find any support for that, and he could not be more specific, just saying it was specifically methane, although I finally found something:
"The GHG [greenhouse gas] emission for cement production alone is about 92%." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4809014/
I did find endless articles claiming that the approximately million reservoirs held behind dams in the world release almost a "gigaton, or billion tons, of annual carbon dioxide equivalents. That would mean they contributed 1.3 percent of the global total." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...enhouse-gases/
"[A]s nutrients like nitrogen and phosphorus flow into reservoirs from rivers — being poured in by human agriculture and waste streams — these can further drive algal growth in reservoirs, giving microorganisms even more material to break down. The study finds that for these reasons, reservoirs emit more methane than `natural lakes, ponds, rivers, or wetlands.;
No no no no no no no! "These reasons?!" Which reasons?! Humans pollute rivers, pollution flows into reservoirs, and bad things happen, but then it suddenly compares this to natural bodies of water.
Don't human-polluted rivers also flow into natural bodies of water? What are these "reasons" that reservoirs emit more methane than natural bodies of water?
“`If oxygen is around, then methane gets converted back to CO2,' said John Harrison, another of the study’s authors, and also a researcher at Washington State. `If oxygen isn’t present, it can get emitted back to the atmosphere as methane.' And flooded areas, he said, are more likely to be depleted of oxygen. A similar process occurs in rice paddies, which are also a major source of methane emissions."
Natural bodies of water have more oxygen than man-made ones? My only takeaway is that rice is bad and so is their condemnation of reservoirs.
|
|
|
11-08-2017, 10:51 AM
|
#50 (permalink)
|
(:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
|
I'm on the seafood diet. When I see food, I eat it.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Frank Lee For This Useful Post:
|
|
|