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Old 06-23-2021, 02:53 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Hubble observes stars blinking out and coming back or or dimming and coming back all the time that can't be explained by planets, dust, ect.
The larger stars seem to have longer dimming or blinking events. Beetlejuice went dim for years. The hundred days dark star is many times more massive than the sun.
I too would like to believe "the suns output never changes" but there's too much evidence not to be open to other possibilities.
Plus something scared the hell out of ancient people all over the world with regards to the sun darkening, whatever it wasn't just a solar eclipse and has caused people to remain fearful until the advent of modern astronomy.

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Old 06-23-2021, 03:27 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Hubble observes stars blinking out and coming back or or dimming and coming back all the time that can't be explained by planets, dust, ect.
The larger stars seem to have longer dimming or blinking events. Beetlejuice went dim for years. The hundred days dark star is many times more massive than the sun.
I too would like to believe "the suns output never changes" but there's too much evidence not to be open to other possibilities.
Plus something scared the hell out of ancient people all over the world with regards to the sun darkening, whatever it wasn't just a solar eclipse and has caused people to remain fearful until the advent of modern astronomy.
We'd want to ignore anything we observe from Hubble with respect to any ancient reporting.
Lack of atmosphere and the light-gathering capability of Hubble's optics makes for observation even God had no capability for.
No one would know about a hundred-day dark star unless they witnessed it's beginning. There'd be no way to let others know, globally about it. How would anyone quantify the 'size' of a star without modern technology?
We all come from Africa. Any cultural mythology which includes anything to do with the Sun could be traced back to Africa, and the original event, if it did occur. And be sustained as a myth even if it never occurred.
The Sun's output doesn't vary by more than a fraction of a percent. And you couldn't tell without modern instrumentation.
If something happened all over the world, and is recorded, then it happened within the last 4,500-years. There are no records which predate that time period.
Presently, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory can tell you where any celestial body was or will be positioned in past times or future times.
I've never met anyone in 69-years that was fearful about a darkening Sun.
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Modern astronomy gave people reason to not fear solar eclipses.
Recent astronomy shows stars going dim or going dark completely.
You also haven't met any one affraid of Saber tooth tigers.
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In # 97 (permalink ) freebeard shared that, it is from the Bible that the mention of our Sun going dark was mentioned.
I have three different Bibles, have read all three, and off the top of my head, have no recollection of reading such a thing.
I was dredging the deep recesses of my memory, but a fraction of second is all DuckDuckGo needs:
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Verse Concepts "But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Mark 13:24

What Does the Bible Say About Dark Sun?
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"Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Matthew 24:29-30 ESV / 14 helpful votes
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Revelation 8:12 Then the fourth angel sounded ... - Bible Hub
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New American Standard Bible The fourth angel sounded, and a third of the sun, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars were struck, so that a third of them would be darkened and the day would not shine for a third of it, and the night in the same way. NASB 1995
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We'd want to ignore anything we observe from Hubble with respect to any ancient reporting.
Lack of atmosphere and the light-gathering capability of Hubble's optics makes for observation even God had no capability for.
Beware putting God in a box.

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Is the Out of Africa Theory Out? An examination of over 5,000 teeth from early human ancestors shows that many of the first Europeans probably came from Asia By Nikhil Swaminathan on August 8, 2007...
Our better qualities come from the Neanderthal. Junteenth for proof.
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Modern astronomy gave people reason to not fear solar eclipses.
Recent astronomy shows stars going dim or going dark completely.
You also haven't met any one affraid of Saber tooth tigers.
In the very short history of documented astronomical observation, it's quite plausible that, some stars which have been photographed or sketched, were unrecognized as variable stars, as perhaps, only recently are they now undergoing their dimming phase, never experienced before.
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That's an 'End Times' event. Nothing ever experienced.
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The very short history of documented astronomical observation, it's quite plausible that, some stars which have been photographed or sketched, were unrecognized as variable stars, as perhaps, only recently are they now undergoing their dimming phase, never experienced before.
Now you are in complete accord with Ben Davisdson. Congrats.

There are stars that nova once every Earth year. Maybe they all do on some cosmic time scale.
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Now you are in complete accord with Ben Davisdson. Congrats.

There are stars that nova once every Earth year. Maybe they all do on some cosmic time scale.
A star's lifespan is determined by it's mass and how quickly it burns its fuel.
Internal pressure wants to 'explode' the star, while gravitational pressure provides fusion potential and holds the star together.
Supermassive stars burn fast and have short lives. Lose their outer shells and collapse into neutron stars.
A supernova is an irreversible event. It only goes one way. I'm not acquainted with 'nova' very well.
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That's an 'End Times' event. Nothing ever experienced.
"Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds". Robert Oppenheimer

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The scale of "nova" starts at about Carrington event level and goes up to Carrington event times a number with about eighteen zeros in it.

One must wonder why people 3000 years ago are describing stuff that sounds exactly like modern technology and weapons systems.
Oppenheimer seemed to think the Mahabharata has some basis in fact.

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