Craig Vetter Quote...

[dcb]

Yah, I remember the screw story, that was a bit of Zen.

[Frank Lee]

I think I wouldn't want to do anything special for the contest that the vehicle wouldn't always run i.e. leaner than usual, higher tire psi than usual, etc. because the goal of the contest is to be real.

[dcb]

Originally Posted by Frank Lee

...because the goal of the contest is to be real.

Lol, good luck defining "real". So a neglected 7psi in the tires and 20 over the limit unless there is a cop behind you (since we are trying to emulate reality)?


"We're from the FUTURE, where the sh$t is Really Real!"

[Frank Lee]

Maybe the contest should factor in a gaslog of at least 12 month's duration.

[dcb]

we already have that

[alvaro84]

Originally Posted by dcb

we already have that

Though it's true that they are just piles of characters on the 'net without any hard evidence.

Even I know someone at another site who expressed his disbelief in my numbers, and I can't really do anything to prove them. Good thing that I don't really care. I know what's behind the logs and I try to keep them as accurate as I can (and somewhat detailed).

I wouldn't open a FE contest with a real prize based on logs like these.

Now I understand Craig's goal, to make vehicles that are efficient in themselves, ridden by a 'normal' person. That's fine, and leaves open the possibility to further hypermile them

So I can't complain about anything other than the wording of the original quote.

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by Frank Lee

I think the easy way to put it is, you want a vehicle and driving technique that your Mom or Grandmother could use (assuming most Moms and Grammas are not willing to tuck and P&G and etc.)

You might be in for a surprise there, depending on whom and where you'd ask.

My dad's first reaction to me coasting along was that he used to do the same, way back in the 50s when fuel was relatively expensive and cars weren't household commodities yet, as Europe was still recovering from the war.

[Frank Lee]

There's a prize?

[dr200]

remarks to post #24 by cvetter,
Most excellent way to put it. There are alot of good ideas on this site and like life, how far are we willing to go to achieve what it is we enjoy or want. Some will rush into it with all the sciences and forget about the fun. Some, the novelty (not the fun) of trying to squeeze every ounce will wear off never really enjoying the whole picture. I got my little Suzuki just to drive back and forth from work (saving about 5 bucks a day), now I find myself riding it for little errands and I do enjoy it. I can break the speed limit in 55mph areas what more do I need in top end . It was written some where that life shouldn’t be measured by how many breaths you take, but by how many moments were breath taking

[dcb]

Fun is all in the eye of the beholder, be it "science" or beating your high mpg score, or laughing at the guy racing to the stoplight and having an aneurysm. Nobody gets to define what activities are "fun" or not, or what "real" is, without being horribly presumptuous. Watching people be presumptuous isn't very fun for me, especially when they are putting down good techniques. Lots of respect lost here.