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Old 08-19-2021, 08:56 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I am surprised this is a burning issue.

I like my Mercedes GLK250 much more than my VW Sportswagen TDI.
Of course you are comparing a luxury crossover with a not-so-luxury station wagon. Perhaps the question is, what do you like better about it? And the other question, being this is an Ecomodder forum, does it get better fuel mileage?

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It isn't a burning issue outside of a tiny minority of people. I hear it here on ecomodder and on some car forums that believe everyone should either drive a brown manual diesel station wagon or a 2 door manual sports car.

Meanwhile in day to day life people love crossovers.
People also love what meets their priorities.

Would I be confortable in a one-ton, crew-cab truck. Yes. But would I keep one even if someone gave one to me and paid me to drive it as my personal vehicle?... NO!!!

Why? Most people just want a vehicle they can fit into comfortably and gets them from point A to B. It doesn't have to get the best fuel mileage or cost the least for them. But I, on the other hand, would like to get away from unnecessary use of energy as much as possible without going so far as to forfeit driving a practical motorized vehicle.

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Old 08-19-2021, 09:16 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Of course you are comparing a luxury crossover with a not-so-luxury station wagon. Perhaps the question is, what do you like better about it?
That's a good point. Why not comparing the Jetta SW to a Tiguan for instance? They even share the same underpinnings.


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Before my knees got too bad I had to use a cane to walk, I considered to get a 125cc motorcycle or a scooter. But as I have a dog, to which my mother is extremely attached BTW, maybe a motorcycle would not be the best setup to travel. This has led me to consider a tricycle conversion, even though there would be a decrease of the top speed if I resorted to a small-displacement motorcycle to convert. Would I be OK with that? Around 99% of the times I believe I would.


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Would I be confortable in a one-ton, crew-cab truck. Yes. But would I keep one even if someone gave one to me and paid me to drive it as my personal vehicle?... NO!!!
Had I been sponsored to drive something with a quite expensive TCO, well, I would be lying if I said I wouldn't be OK with that.


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Most people just want a vehicle they can fit into comfortably and gets them from point A to B. It doesn't have to get the best fuel mileage or cost the least for them. But I, on the other hand, would like to get away from unnecessary use of energy as much as possible without going so far as to forfeit driving a practical motorized vehicle.
I guess you understand why I still consider quite reasonable to eventually build an early Piaggio Ape replica from scratch, with some improvements to enhance practicality and comfort.
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Not so much better on highway.
25% better is enough for me.

Toyota USA confirmed that we are getting the hybrid next year as a 2023 model.
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Toyota USA confirmed that we are getting the hybrid next year as a 2023 model.
I wonder if the US-spec hybrid will get the 2ZR-FXE available elsewhere or the M20A-FXS which AFAIK had never been fitted to the sedan.
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How to make a plain economy car look more attractive to someone influenced by the CUV trend:


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