Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > EcoModding Central
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-19-2008, 04:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
Ecoformance Engineer
 
Vince-HX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Arizona
Posts: 239

EJ7 - '96 honda civic Hx
Last 3: 58.02 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Project HX - The flip side

I'm totally addicted to mpg and i'm not afraid to admit it

My current ride is a worn in (180,000) mile 96 Honda Hx. When i first bought the car the best I could do was high 30's but that was before I discovered the world of hypermiling.

My Hx is setup mostly stock with a full suspension upgrade, 15's and grippy 205-50-15s, and a Full-Race traction bar. I compare it to riding a Ninja 250, small, nimble, but if you want to go fast around corners you have to go fast into corners. Anyway it rides and handles great but right now with my MPG kick I could sacrifice a little here and there.

I swapped a Ex tranny into it before i knew what the hell i was doing and now I'm guessing I'm loosing out on 5-7 mpg because of the shorter gearing. And the current wheel and tire combo is a little small (speedo reads a little off but odo is gps verified). A Cx tranny from a Eg chassis should put my rpms where they should be soon.

My latest mods have been side mirror deletes, upper grill block, vacuum gauge installed, front lip, tune-up. My last tank checked out @ my best yet - 48 mpg

In a few days I plan to have my hands on a set of Hx wheels and tires for a 28lb rotational weight drop and a SCII. Also if my job doesn't take over my life this weekend I plan to start fabrication of a full fiberglass belly pan and rear wheel side skirts.

I also plan to add extra instrumentation to better monitor the vtec-e and lean burn modes. Right now my vacuum gauge is providing me with some great info and it seems to be working. Its cool to feel and see how a vacuum gauge, throttle, vtec-e, and lean burn all work together but I still feel there is much to learn to maximize my mpg gains.

I also just want to say that Honda's are effin AMAZING

Oh, and I guess i should add that during the day I engineer and fabricate custom stainless steel turbo manifolds. If you guys are interested in that kinda stuff you can check out the site http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea....full-race.com.

So yeah, thats about it for now.

I would love to hear any ideas you guys have

And when I achieve my goals and finish all my planned mods I am going on to the next project. It will be a full custom chassis three wheeler, fully enclosed single seater with a ninja 250 engine with sprag clutch combined with a custom small hybrid brushless Dc Regen capable setup. I want, need, 150+ mpg **insert evil laugh**

The pic is pre mirror delete and grill block but gives you guys an idea of what i'm working with.

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	hx.jpg
Views:	175
Size:	53.9 KB
ID:	959  
__________________

70 mpg or die modding

www.full-race.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
looking forward to seeing what kind of uber-sipper slinks out of the full race skunkworks.

Last edited by Vince-HX; 08-01-2008 at 10:39 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 06-19-2008, 08:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
Administrator
 
Daox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Germantown, WI
Posts: 11,203

CM400E - '81 Honda CM400E
90 day: 51.49 mpg (US)

Daox's Grey Prius - '04 Toyota Prius
Team Toyota
90 day: 49.53 mpg (US)

Daox's Insight - '00 Honda Insight
90 day: 64.33 mpg (US)

Swarthy - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage DE
Mitsubishi
90 day: 56.69 mpg (US)

Daox's Volt - '13 Chevrolet Volt
Thanks: 2,501
Thanked 2,585 Times in 1,553 Posts
Welcome to the site. The HX is a great car to start with. Looking forward to hearing more.
__________________
Current project: A better alternator delete
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2008, 12:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,513

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.71 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 60.16 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,058
Thanked 6,957 Times in 3,602 Posts
Quote:
I would love to hear any ideas you guys have
Sounds like you have no shortage of ideas and are already headed in the right direction!

I hope you'll keep us updated on the ecomods as they unfold.
__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 12:34 AM   #4 (permalink)
Ecoformance Engineer
 
Vince-HX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Arizona
Posts: 239

EJ7 - '96 honda civic Hx
Last 3: 58.02 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
So I guess i'll be putting the SCII on the backburner for now as my driver side motor mount completely failed. I will be replacing all the mount with new Hasport billet performace mounts, they retail @ $550

Oh well, still getting new wheels and some tint. I really need the tint because temps here are hovering around 115 and my mpg has dropped an estimated 15% with the Ac on
__________________

70 mpg or die modding

www.full-race.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
looking forward to seeing what kind of uber-sipper slinks out of the full race skunkworks.

Last edited by Vince-HX; 08-01-2008 at 10:39 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 07:40 AM   #5 (permalink)
OCD Master EcoModder
 
brucepick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Eastern CT, USA
Posts: 1,933

Outasight - '00 Honda Insight
Team Honda
Gen-1 Insights
90 day: 54.18 mpg (US)
Thanks: 429
Thanked 391 Times in 261 Posts
I know how it is sometimes - planned mods stacked up in a holding pattern like aircraft while doing maintenance.
__________________
Coast long and prosper.
Driving '00 Honda Insight, acquired Feb 2016.


  Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 09:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
Veggiedynamics
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Alexandria, MN
Posts: 684

Volt12 - '12 Chevy Volt base
Thanks: 0
Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts
the scan gauge will help you out considerably, Its so worth the $150.. make it a priority on your list.. Wish my 87 CRX had ODB2
__________________

  Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 01:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
sickpuppy318's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 53

the mazda - '01 MAZDA Protege LX
90 day: 34.68 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
I've read about you FULLRACE guys. Your project cars are AWSOME!!! Crazy attention to detail with flawless execution. So you designed some of those BEAUTIFUL robot welded manifolds??? SWEET! If you can eco-mod as well as you can performance mod, i'd think 60 (or 150)MPG is no problem.
__________________
Call channel five, get them broads over here, tell them of the tragedy of my trappedness.

  Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 04:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
Ecoformance Engineer
 
Vince-HX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Arizona
Posts: 239

EJ7 - '96 honda civic Hx
Last 3: 58.02 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Thanks for that props, its a really amazing job and i'm really grateful to have the opportunity to do what I do.

Man, all you guys that Crx's are making me sad. I had a cherry 91 Si as my daily 3 months ago but a truck turned left infront of me when I was driving and its beyond totaled and I should have died in the accident. Seatbelt didnt lock out and it was a 50 mph t-bone, crx vs Ford f-450. Wasn't my fault and my lawsuit is coming along just fine.

Here is a pic of my baby
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	dead crx.jpg
Views:	143
Size:	50.5 KB
ID:	970  
__________________

70 mpg or die modding

www.full-race.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
looking forward to seeing what kind of uber-sipper slinks out of the full race skunkworks.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2008, 04:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
Dartmouth 2010
 
SVOboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hanover, NH
Posts: 6,447

Vegan Powa! - '91 Honda CRX DX
Team Honda
90 day: 66.52 mpg (US)
Thanks: 92
Thanked 122 Times in 90 Posts
Send a message via AIM to SVOboy Send a message via MSN to SVOboy Send a message via Yahoo to SVOboy
Wait, you're one of the full-race guys? OMG that's cool.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2008, 02:22 AM   #10 (permalink)
Ecoformance Engineer
 
Vince-HX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Arizona
Posts: 239

EJ7 - '96 honda civic Hx
Last 3: 58.02 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Heres a few pix of my mirror block off plates and upper grill block off plate.

They were made out of a nice aluminum diamond plate sheet I had laying around from a dune buggy project. I know its not a completely smooth surface but its what I had and it looks blingin

Also attached is a pic of my vacuum gauge and its custom mounting system Its also my very best half tank @ 300 miles and it calculated out to just about 48 mpg

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	upper grill block.jpg
Views:	168
Size:	58.5 KB
ID:	988   Click image for larger version

Name:	mirror block.jpg
Views:	1185
Size:	32.0 KB
ID:	989   Click image for larger version

Name:	vacuum.jpg
Views:	146
Size:	38.9 KB
ID:	990  
__________________

70 mpg or die modding

www.full-race.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
looking forward to seeing what kind of uber-sipper slinks out of the full race skunkworks.
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Side mirror drag & effect on fuel economy - quantified MetroMPG Aerodynamics 179 11-10-2022 03:25 PM
The extreme AreoCRX-HF project ebacherville Aerodynamics 279 03-18-2018 01:03 AM
Side View Mirror Downsize cfg83 Aerodynamics 20 07-13-2011 12:22 AM
New to the forum, with my RX-7 EV Project... BigMouse Fossil Fuel Free 14 02-28-2008 04:14 PM
HX powerplant swap... worth it? reformed EcoModding Central 6 02-03-2008 04:00 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com