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DIY - Water Injection
Water injection has been around a long, long time. I posted earlier that there are some very good methods of making a simple system, quite economically.
This one is my own starting point:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...earth/me3.html
But I just found more on an Australian site that offers some added refinement:
It's a good overview article:
http://www.autospeed.com.au/A_107970/cms/article.html
Then they have this 3 Part DIY series of building the electronic and plumbing needed to make it work even better. Between the really simple one above and these 4 Aussie articles, I'll bet the potential for more economy and output could really prove out much better.
http://www.autospeed.com.au/cms/article.html?&A=1522
http://www.autospeed.com.au/cms/article.html?&A=1528
http://www.autospeed.com.au/cms/A_1539/article.html
By the way, there are many articles in there on aerodynamics, better air/fuel ducting and the main site offers DIY circuit kits for many of the projects they cover.
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02-16-2008, 08:03 PM
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Water injection is an interesting subject, but its really not incredibly useful in and of itself for increasing fuel economy. It can be used along with engine modifications to increase compression ratio since it supresses detonation and allows you to maintain stoimetric air/fuel ratios. However, you better build a reliable system because if it breaks, your engine can/will be damaged.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daox
Water injection is an interesting subject, but its really not incredibly useful in and of itself for increasing fuel economy. It can be used along with engine modifications to increase compression ratio since it supresses detonation and allows you to maintain stoimetric air/fuel ratios. However, you better build a reliable system because if it breaks, your engine can/will be damaged.
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Good points. I plan to use my Fairmont 6 as the test machine with a view to include it in my Real Woody project.
Although I've been reading up on the possibility that major car brands are considering a revival of the Steam Engine, meaning even lower emissions and less fuel consumption.
http://www.autospeed.com.au/cms/A_2571/article.html
http://www.autospeed.com.au/cms/gall...w=0&a=2571&i=7
http://www.stanleysteamers.com/06.htm
http://www.stanleysteamers.com/
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02-19-2008, 11:46 PM
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running your car on water
I've been researching this alot lately in hopes the hopes to cheat the system and get better fuel economy. All I've gotten was testimonials from the companies selling the products, I have seen no real people on forum's proving it. I suppose that you are talking about the Hydrogen system that you can build that you basically just add water run electricity though it and it seperates the atoms and creates hydrogen that you will inject through your air intake. Which would result in burning less gas and it would burn the hydrogen and clean the carbon from your cylinders. Is this correct? Is there anyone out there that has seriously and honestly seen this work?
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I've been researching this alot lately in hopes the hopes to cheat the system and get better fuel economy. All I've gotten was testimonials from the companies selling the products, I have seen no real people on forum's proving it. I suppose that you are talking about the Hydrogen system that you can build that you basically just add water run electricity though it and it seperates the atoms and creates hydrogen that you will inject through your air intake. Which would result in burning less gas and it would burn the hydrogen and clean the carbon from your cylinders. Is this correct? Is there anyone out there that has seriously and honestly seen this work?
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That's why I'm going to build my own using this $10 (less than $5 in 1980) DIY project. It just injects water. It doesn't convert it to anything but steam vapor. No electrics.
I want to see what that does first. What issues I'll encounter finding clean water (non-tapwater) while travelling, carrying it in the car, etc. Once I get those questions answered, I'll look at other systems.
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02-21-2008, 02:05 AM
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This site is also worth a look for those interested.
www.waterinjection.info
There is a dedicated Fuel Economy section as well.
Cheers , Pete.
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This site is also worth a look for those interested.
www.waterinjection.info
There is a dedicated Fuel Economy section as well.
Cheers , Pete.
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That's excellent for me! I wanna go slow into this stuff, rather than blow my money of theoretical products. Thanks.
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This site is also worth a look for those interested.
www.waterinjection.info
There is a dedicated Fuel Economy section as well.
Cheers , Pete.
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Peter a friend sent me this last nite. He found it on the FordSix forum:
http://www.turbomirage.com/water.html
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02-21-2008, 04:35 PM
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Here's the FordSix Forum thread:
http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49182
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02-21-2008, 06:48 PM
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I've always liked these plans:
http://www.3barracing.com/waterinj.htm
They use greenhouse mister nozzles for a fine spray, which you can adjust using various nozzles.
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