DIY - Water Injection

[COMP]

the DIY meth. still is what i'm also looking into

[Stormin' Norman]

Originally Posted by COMP

the DIY meth. still is what i'm also looking into

Got ya. Well those should help.

[COMP]

Originally Posted by Stormin' Norman

Got ya. Well those should help.

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[tjts1]

Originally Posted by dremd

I thought I had posted in this thread before ????


I did see SOME FE gains with Water injection on the Supra. My setup was super cheap, proportional to the Fuel flow, and worked well.

In a Nut shell Fuel pump, Fuel pressure Regulator and 1 injector sized to be ~10% of the Sum of all of your FUEL injectors. I had 6 550 CC/Min's and 1 370 CC/Min injector for water. I ten taped the "7th injector" to one of the Batch lines, plumed it up and it worked well.

If anyone is interested, let me know and I'll explain in much more detail.

A buddy just won an AEM Water/ methanol Injection kit, I'll let you guys know how it works when we get it on his car.

I would like to hear more about this setup. I was thinking about doing the exact same thing until someone pointed out that that fuel injectors don't last too long with water running through. Do you have pics? thanks

[Doofus McFancypants]

To the question about the H2 injection and data -

there is a guy over on a Nissan Forum who has insalled one of the Hydrogen setups in his car. Early data he is reporting suggests it is giving him some interesting results - last updates were he was working on running a tank or so though ( has only tested a few miles then filled up again).

I PM'd him and suggested he may want to join our forum - he has taken ALOT of abuse over there - more than i think anyone who is willing to try something out and post results should.

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/gen...e-mileage.html

is it kinda sad how mean some people can get when an "abstract" idea comes into play.

steve

[Daox]

He posted here yesterday.

[COMP]

Originally Posted by Doofus McFancypants

To the question about the H2 injection and data -

there is a guy over on a Nissan Forum who has insalled one of the Hydrogen setups in his car. Early data he is reporting suggests it is giving him some interesting results - last updates were he was working on running a tank or so though ( has only tested a few miles then filled up again).

I PM'd him and suggested he may want to join our forum - he has taken ALOT of abuse over there - more than i think anyone who is willing to try something out and post results should.

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/gen...e-mileage.html

is it kinda sad how mean some people can get when an "abstract" idea comes into play.

steve

i agree,, like we won't be able to afford to eat cause of E85

[dremd]

For FE I think that Water only might be cheapest. The alcohol does cool better than water, but is primarily for octane boost.

Does anybody know if E-85 will blend with water?

[Lazarus]

Originally Posted by dremd

For FE I think that Water only might be cheapest. The alcohol does cool better than water, but is primarily for octane boost.

Does anybody know if E-85 will blend with water?

To much water is not a good thing with E85.

For ethanol contaminated with larger amounts of water (i.e., approximately 11% water, 89% ethanol, equivalent to 178 proof ethanol), considerable engine wear will occur, especially during times while the engine is heating up to normal operating temperatures. For example, just after starting the engine, low temperature partial combustion of the water-contaminated ethanol mixture takes place and causes engine wear. This wear, caused by water-contaminated E85, is the result of the combustion process of ethanol, water, and gasoline producing considerable amounts of formic acid (HCOOH, also known as methanoic acid and sometimes written as CH2O2). In addition to the production of formic acid occurring for water-contaminated E85, smaller amounts of acetaldehyde (CH3CHO) and acetic acid (C2H4O2) are also formed for water-contaminated ethanol combustion. Of these partial combustion products, formic acid is responsible for the majority of the rapid increase in engine wear.

[dremd]

Sure it's n ot a good thing as a primary fuel, but if you are injecting Water/ Methanol at a rate of 10% (What I've heard as optimal No Source known) and it is 1/2 water and 1/2 E-85 we are talking 5% water, well under the 11% stated.


Would be a cheap way to get your hands on Alcohol