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Old 10-04-2018, 08:41 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I could get gas service but it would cost up to $2,000 for the install. Up to $2,000 for a natural gas furnace and that's assuming I could install the furnace my self, $500 or so for a natural gas water heater, up to $1,000 for a natural gas range and $250 to $500 for a gas dryer, but I already have a gas dryer.

I'm still going to get a gas range and convert it to run on propane. I figure a 100lb propane bottle will last up to a year.

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I'm sure you could do all that for much less if you do the work yourself. Renting a trencher doesn't cost much. You should see if you can strike a deal with the gas company because they might be willing to foot most of the cost of install if you tell them you'll be running all the gas appliances mentioned. Maybe ask them if you can pay materials and they do the install.

Gas dryers can be had for $50 to free, and many of the other appliances can be had cheaply as well.

Your time traveling to get firewood has to factor into the cost too. I'm a big fan of instant on gas heat. I'd not install a wood burning fireplace in a new home even though I love them. Gas is just too cheap and convenient.
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NM requires a licensed and bonded contractor to install gas service before they will turn on the gas. They specifically made it so DIY initial gas installs can't happen.
I can change over the water heater no problem.
For furnaces I have replaced gas with gas, fuel oil with gas but never heat pump to gas.
I actually looked for almost a year for a cheap gas dryer in good condition. All I could find was junk or brand new for $500. I eventually just went to the local used appliance shop and got one for about $260.
My wife already has the gas range she wants picked out, I don't remember exactly which one it is but it's not cheap.

I like the non electrical simplicity of a wood stove and the inherent design of having large amounts of fuel stored on site.
The coal furnace has electrical blowers but I have a 24v forklift battery out in the garage and an samlex power inverter. The battery should be able to power the blowers via power inverter for a few days when the power goes out.
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That's cute but I already have a 17.5kw generator on its own trailer.
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My parents either paid nothing, or $100 to have the gas company run a line 300ft.

NM might require a pro to do the install, but that's why I'm saying you could haggle the price by prepping the site with a trench. Doesn't hurt to see if they'll work with you on price. There are even funds utilities have for low income people, and you could approach it as a necessity to reduce your home operating costs.
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I picked up 360lb of 3.25'' by 6'' I beam, with a weight of around 12lb per liner foot with the leaf and trailer.
I'm going to weld it up and hold up the roof of one of my buildings.
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Now if I could go get coal with the EV that would be poetically circular.

Only if you then burn it to generate power to charge the Leaf.
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Around half of the power generated in NM comes from coal.
The closest place I might be able to get coal from is the coal fired power plant.

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