Elio Motors, The Next Big Thing?!!...

[freebeard]

The comparisons are entertaining. I don't care one way or the other about Elio but I have a tendency to not un-subscribe to threads (comes from when arragonis would urge people to unsubscribe to a particular thread, sometimes repeatedly) so I'm sort of trapped in purgatory here.

Can we let it die?

OTOH the topic puts me in mind of the kabinenrollers of the 1950s. Apparently they're a reasonable response to an economy that's in the toilet. If the present economy were headed that way (not wishing anything on anybody) that might tip the scale.

[cyclopathic]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

I think Elio can easily make this, just not for less then about twice what they are saying. If they do start making them, and do it for the price they are talking, scarf one up. They will either quickly jack up the price once they "proved" they could do it or go out of business trying to sell on a negative profit margin.

So how Mitsubishi can sell Mirage under 10k?

[Hersbird]

Originally Posted by cyclopathic

So how Mitsubishi can sell Mirage under 10k?

They don't sell the Mirage for under $10,000. There may be a "loss leader" at a car lot here or there across the country for $10,000 but normally dealer cost is $13,552 and MSRP is $13,805 and they currently only have a $500 rebate (actually I see a few areas have a bit higher but there are also caveats like loyalty or military). It is also built in Thailand not the US. Mitsubishi is big company with potential profits coming from many fronts. It wouldn't surprise me if they actually lose money on every base manual transmission Mirage they sell. Their only reason to have a few like the Versa and the Spark, so people will come in thinking maybe they will walk out with a $13,000 new car and end up spending a lot more. I do think they could sell the Elio for a similar price with a very slim profit if they pay the workers Walmart or less wages with limited benefits.
A Can-am Spider starts at $15,000 and goes to $22,500, how on earth is the Elio going to have more content and be less then 1/2 the price?

[rmay635703]

The china price for an elio is $3500, plain and simple if they want to meet a cost target it can be done, it will just mean certain sacrifices.

[user removed]

Originally Posted by freebeard

The comparisons are entertaining. I don't care one way or the other about Elio but I have a tendency to not un-subscribe to threads (comes from when arragonis would urge people to unsubscribe to a particular thread, sometimes repeatedly) so I'm sort of trapped in purgatory here.

Can we let it die?

OTOH the topic puts me in mind of the kabinenrollers of the 1950s. Apparently they're a reasonable response to an economy that's in the toilet. If the present economy were headed that way (not wishing anything on anybody) that might tip the scale.

LOL, this economy is the toilet.

Tell me how you can promise a specific mpg at a certain price, five years before you have the product to back up the promises?

regards
mech

[Christopher Jordan]

2016 is almost here. I can just sense the Elio's anticipation! After all; Organic Transportation seems to be doing well.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Though I would like to see the Elio on the market, I wouldn't hold my breath for that. There was a similar project in my country, the Pompéo, initially intended to be fitted with a 250cc Yamaha engine but which switched to all-electric, and then, even though a functional project had been done, it didn't come to the market.

[Hersbird]

There are few new motorcycles that sell for $6800 or under in the US.

[sendler]

Built in Thailand all the same for a huge world market a million units at a run.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Making a 3-wheel "car" with 2 seats (either tandem like the Elio or side-by-side) and selling it for $6800 doesn't seem impossible at all, but the project guidelines should be clear since day one, and Elio seems to have failed on that matter. Now that it seems to be finally ready for production run, there is no excuse for more delays, though the $6800 price became too unrealistic at this point.