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Old 12-07-2020, 06:25 PM   #2031 (permalink)
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It was a joke.
I was joking too, even though a Suzuki engine swap into a Beetle might be interesting to say the least. Just to remind, Volkswagen EA827 swaps into Beetles and other air-cooled Volkswagens in my country are quite common.


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I still have a stroker 1776 that needs to go in something.
Sometimes I lurk about fitting a Volkswagen air-cooled engine into some newer vehicle, and a Swift is newer enough

On a sidenote, I have already considered the possibility of adapting an early Suzuki Vitara body into a modified Beetle chassis.

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Old 12-07-2020, 06:50 PM   #2032 (permalink)
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Have you seen a cleaner installation than this?

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Old 12-08-2020, 12:11 AM   #2033 (permalink)
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Have you seen a cleaner installation than this?
I have seen some nearly as clean as that, but none cleaner at all.
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Old 12-30-2020, 09:12 PM   #2034 (permalink)
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Hi, I'm an ecomodding newbie but have lurked here for quite a while. Sorry for not reading the whole thread on this topic, but the thing I heard about Elio was that they had hoped to get the same government funding that Fisker got (but then Fisker was unable to stay in business), but whichever U.S. gov't department or agency this was, they never gave Elio the funding they were hoping for. And that was why the car never went into production, because they were counting on this government money (I assume it would have been at least tens of millions.) Sounds like a poor business model to me. Apologies if this has already been covered in the thread.
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I'm not going back either, but, in addition, IIRC Elio insisted on developing a new gas engine just as the world was turning electric.
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Old 12-30-2020, 11:35 PM   #2036 (permalink)
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Hi, I'm an ecomodding newbie but have lurked here for quite a while. Sorry for not reading the whole thread on this topic, but the thing I heard about Elio was that they had hoped to get the same government funding that Fisker got (but then Fisker was unable to stay in business), but whichever U.S. gov't department or agency this was, they never gave Elio the funding they were hoping for. And that was why the car never went into production, because they were counting on this government money (I assume it would have been at least tens of millions.) Sounds like a poor business model to me. Apologies if this has already been covered in the thread.
Elio never got off the ground because they promised to sell cars for less than they would cost to build. Anyone with any manufacturing background looked at their business plan and just laughed.

They were promising to sell a low volume fully enclosed car for less than the cost of a basic utility vehicle.
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Old 12-31-2020, 07:37 PM   #2037 (permalink)
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... while designing a brand new engine from scratch when there are many perfectly good engines already available. Even companies that already have factories (and dealerships and customers, etc) don't design engines from scratch any more than they absolutely have to. And when they do, they don't do it for just one car.

The Elio was very popular here. That's why Paul Elio is not.
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IIRC Elio insisted on developing a new gas engine just as the world was turning electric
Even though it would seem easier to go electric, resorting to a gas engine is not really a problem. Claiming to be developing an engine from scratch while it was basically a copy of the Suzuki G10 turned out to not be a smart move.
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Elio never got off the ground
That is what I thought too- until yesterday! An Elio, or an exact copy of that orange one- was going along the cliff road in the opposite direction

WHAT A NEW YEAR SHOCKER!
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They made several prototypes.

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