EV Price Discussion

[sendler]

Somewhere around $8,000 would be a fair price for 30,000 miles for me in NY. Some rougher 2013's with 60,000 miles are around $5,500.

[redpoint5]

The Leaf batteries still carry an 8 year, 100,000 mile battery warranty, so if they are losing 4 bars in that timeframe you could potentially get a new battery, or at least one not so bad.

Here is when InsideEVs predicts the credits to phase out for each manufacturer:



I think I'll shoot for January when people aren't looking for cars, and have no cash due to the holidays. Also, the new year will instantly make the used cars appear to be 1 year older.

[sendler]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

The Leaf batteries still carry an 8 year, 100,000 mile battery warranty, so if they are losing 4 bars in that timeframe you could potentially get a new battery, or at least one not so bad.

This is only for a battery fault. Like a dead cell pair that is bricking the battery with a code. Not capacity. The capacity warranty is 5 years/ 60,000 miles. Any 2013.5 and up which came with one, then another battery improvements will probably never win the battery lottery.

[JockoT]

There have already been 20,000 sales of the Nissan Leaf, here in the UK.

[sendler]

Buyer of a used Leaf beware also that the used car guys can and will reset the battery range indicator (guess-o-meter). and then go for some very gentle drives, and then recharge, to show an available range of 80-100 miles even though the car has 40,000 miles and 3 bars lost. And will really only go 50 miles once the new buyer starts driving it on the highway.

[Xist]

How do you check for this?

[sendler]

Take a long test drive of 50 miles on the highway with the heat/ ac on ect. to make sure before you buy any EV. If the guessometer agrees with the miles driven at the end then you can know what you are getting. If you drive until a low remaining capacity and have only gone 40 miles you will know about what the true range is. Also the guessometer may start recalculating after 10 or 20 miles to show what is real.
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Anyone that is seriously thinking of buying a Leaf should get the Leafspy app and a dongle. Then all of your questions will be answered with one click after the test drive.

[vskid3]

It'll be interesting to see what the Leaf's battery issues will do to its value and other EVs as they age out of warranty and start getting the same EV range of a Volt. We might see other manufacturers bragging about their battery management setups and lack of degradation.

In my area, it looks like the prices have started leveling out or even increased a bit (besides Leafs). Electric Smarts seem to be averaging a little more than a few months ago. Volt prices have plateaued or even gone up. Almost a year ago, we were looking at a 2013 Volt with 102k miles for $10225. Less than a month ago, we bought a 2013 Volt with 97k miles for $10k from the same dealer.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by sendler

Anyone that is seriously thinking of buying a Leaf should get the Leafspy app and a dongle. Then all of your questions will be answered with one click after the test drive.

Yes, I will get Leafspy once I get serious about buying one. The dongle is just a bluetooth ELM237?

[sendler]

Only certain brands of dongles tend to work best with no bugs. Check the Leaf forum for the latest info.