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The Fastback bloc
So far, stylists are toying with,and willing to continue the fastback roofline production into the future. Some examples are:
2018 McLaren Speedtail
2020 Hyundai Prophesy concept
2021 Subaru WRX
2021 Toyota 86
2021 Lucid Air
2021 Mercedes-Benz EQS
2021 Audi E-Tron Sportback
2022 BMW i4
2022 Cadillac Celestiq
2022 Mazda6
2022 Volvo XC100 flagship luxury SUV
2023 Audi TT E-Tron
As we near the hundredth anniversary of the fastback, in 2022, we might take a moment to tip our hat to the memory of Paul Jaray, who put this anti-entropic technology on the map.
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07-30-2020, 12:53 AM
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I like fastbacks with a full-sized hatch, as they can be as aerodynamic as some sedans while retaining a versatility more comparable to a station-wagon.
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I like fastbacks with a full-sized hatch, as they can be as aerodynamic as some sedans while retaining a versatility more comparable to a station-wagon.
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My ex-boss in the late 1980's had a fastback hatch Mazda 626 GT and loved it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/autopol...da-626-gt/amp/
Aerohead, that list of future cars coming out is exciting. I looked a few up, "things are getting better all the time" as the Beatles once sang.
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08-06-2020, 08:38 PM
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My ex-boss in the late 1980's had a fastback hatch Mazda 626 GT and loved it.
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Once in a while I see a black one from mid-90s
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My ex-boss in the late 1980's had a fastback hatch Mazda 626 GT and loved it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/autopol...da-626-gt/amp/
Aerohead, that list of future cars coming out is exciting. I looked a few up, "things are getting better all the time" as the Beatles once sang.
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We'll have to see how and if consumers embrace them, and sales volume.
It's a certainty that designers know the fastback is the highest performance roofline in existence, but that doesn't necessarily translate to sales.
My brother installed a 50-amp charger for a client's wife's Tesla Model S. He owns, among other things, a McLaren Speedtail. Journalists couldn't have given this car higher praise. They liked the Rolls-Royce Wraith as well. But that same fastback roof on a Nissan Sentra might be met with journalistic hostility, citing 'wasted' headroom, 'wasted' interior volume.
The automotive universe remains a very weird and subjective place.
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As we near the hundredth anniversary of the fastback, in 2022, we might take a moment to tip our hat to the memory of Paul Jaray, who put this anti-entropic technology on the map.
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My brother installed a 50-amp charger for a client's wife's Tesla Model S. He owns, among other things, a McLaren Speedtail. Journalists couldn't have given this car higher praise. They liked the Rolls-Royce Wraith as well. But that same fastback roof on a Nissan Sentra might be met with journalistic hostility, citing 'wasted' headroom, 'wasted' interior volume.
The automotive universe remains a very weird and subjective place.
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Even if both sedan and hatchback versions have the same lenght, headroom and most other dimensions are also identical, at least in 3rd-world countries such as Brazil the sedan is perceived as more prestigious even though in the end it may remain actually cheaper to manufacture. Ain't it quite stupid?
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Nice photo, followed the provided link and found more.
Mustang guy looks like an early ecomodder.
Some Jerry Melton racing photos.
1969 Wolverine Trans-Am photos
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Holy trailing vortices Batman! That's begging for a spoiler.
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Holy trailing vortices Batman! That's begging for a spoiler.
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Please bear in mind that, with a proper fastback roof contour, the effective static pressure acting over the rear of the greenhouse is at the highest pressure of all roof profiles.
Some of the most expensive, 200-mph- plus fastbacks available on the market today, have no rear spoilers at all. They don't need any.
The present Rolls-Royce Wraith, Bentley Continental, Lamborghini Aventador/ Murcielago/ Huracan, 1978 Daimler-Benz, Mercedes-Benz C-111 III, and 2020 McLaren Speedtail would be worth a look.
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